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Old 9-Nov-2005   #1
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Question GSBF Manzanita Workshop

I wondering if anyone took the workshop or sat in -
If so, what are your thoughts/coments-

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Hi Richard,

I only caught snippets as I walked by, but I did snap a few photos. I, too, would love to hear any wisdom or insights if anyone sat in or attended. I've tried Manzanitas only to suffer the heartache of failure. I did overhear an interesting discussion outside of the workshop that suggested altitude is the secret. Perhaps these tricky natives do not like the conditions at sea level?

If anyone saved their notes and wouldn't mind sharing them during study hall...

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suggested altitude is the secret. Perhaps these tricky natives do not like the conditions at sea level?


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I used to live in sonoma county and Manzanita were all over the place so I don't think altitude is a factor.
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I had a few conversation with Greg Brenden, the instructor, and he said that he didn't believe that the altitude is a factor either.

Also, there is a native tree nursery here in Topanga Canyon near Los Angeles (The Theodore Payne Foundation - see website), where they grow dozens of different manzanita species. The altitude is close to sea level and the manzanitas look in top health all the time.

Maybe Peter can pitch in here (aka. Maria Capra), he actually took the workshop.

What I've learne from Greg is that these shrubs are lime haters (ericaceous plants) and it's better to water them with distilled water or rainwater. They love acidic soil and if you hard prune a branch it will probably die back all the way to the trunk. You have to handle them in the least intrusive way. They love sun and don't mind heat, and grow extremely slow. A trunk of a collected tree about 1 inch thick may well be over a hundred years old.
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Just a comment on the convention workshops in general. I've attended all the GSBF conventions but 3, and in my opinion, this convention had the best workshop material ever. I heard several others say the same.
Sincere congratulations to the convention committee and all the workshop leaders.

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I had a few conversation with Greg Brenden, the instructor, and he said that he didn't believe that the altitude is a factor either.

Also, there is a native tree nursery here in Topanga Canyon near Los Angeles (The Theodore Payne Foundation - see website), where they grow dozens of different manzanita species. The altitude is close to sea level and the manzanitas look in top health all the time.

Maybe Peter can pitch in here (aka. Maria Capra), he actually took the workshop.

What I've learne from Greg is that these shrubs are lime haters (ericaceous plants) and it's better to water them with distilled water or rainwater. They love acidic soil and if you hard prune a branch it will probably die back all the way to the trunk. You have to handle them in the least intrusive way. They love sun and don't mind heat, and grow extremely slow. A trunk of a collected tree about 1 inch thick may well be over a hundred years old.


Interesting, We have acid soil, and rain, which is the water supply caught on the roof, maybe I should try to import some. I've always loved them and their larger cousin, madrone. Now THERE'S a tree!
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Richard--I kept an eye out for you during the convention--it was a great time. Thanks Michelle for posting the pics of the workshop; my camera doesn't have a very good flash attachment and I can print yours up for the scrapbook.

Atilla--you are right on about what I had to say about manzanitas, I hope the discussion helps you with yours.

Mike--it was great to meet you after knowing you only on the internet after all these years.

Bruce--funny you should mention madrone, as I have also been having equal if not better success with this species--Arbutus arizonica, or Arizona madrone. They have a smaller leaf than the Pacific madrone.

This was my first outing at a convention with manzanitas and it has been quite an experience. Paul De Rose first contacted me in Oct. 2004 to invite me to do a workshop and urged me to start collecting as soon as possible, so the material would be acclimated and ready to go by Nov. 2005. I was digging halloween, thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter to come up with the material for this workshop. It was really something to have all those trees in one place at one time and really, really tough to part with some of them :-(

On the upside, however, is the fact that there are now several more folks out there growing manzanitas and when we compare notes, somebody else besides me may find one more thing that can help everybody else. I really hope this workshop will serve to encourage others to give them another try and not just give up after one or two failures.
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