JBP workshopping with BONSAIKC

Vonsgardens

The mantra- Black pines and red pines (Japanese) pull the needles- lots of potential buds. White pines (Japanese) and Ponderosa cut teh needles. Less aggressive growers with fewer latent buds, must take advantage of as many buds as possible. The problem with stimulating too many buds is that you will have to remove most of them anyway, so, a key is not only to get buds to pop, but to get them to pop where you want them.

John

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anttal63

well well i took the tree to work and had a pluck in between cutting clients hair today. wouldnt mind using this technique on some clients. at times my clients and staff would call out "pluck me harder"' which in turn worked me up into a needle plucking frenzie!!! but im almost there should finish it off tomorrow and post up tomorrow night. got get some sleep now needle's, needle's, needle's, needle's. did i have to get hooked on pines? what was i thinking? harry's got the right idea.

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anttal63

Ok Chris i've got there eventually. I think i got carried away on a few weak shoots/branches that maybe i shouldn't have touched. Well pal give it to me the good, bad and ugly. Is there any where i should be taking more off? And now what next ?

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Vonsgardens

Looks very good. A technique that helps is to step back and look to see if any area has denser needles than anywhere else- look for an even distribution of needles. Also, stnd up and look down on the the tree and look to be sure that the needle spacing is even and every bud can see the light.

John

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bonsaikc

Looks pretty good to me, too. I think it may be too early in the training of this tree to pull any of this year's needles, although I'd like a closer look at the top, where you have the shorter needles. If that's really thick with branches, I'd suggest removing some of those needles.

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anttal63

john thanks for the tip. i have left more old needles on weak to medium secondary branches and what seem to be weak old shoots that only have old needles on them. is this correct.

i have also probably got to many needles left on the sacraficial branch as well. the fact that i want to develope that branch later im just trying to spread the energy. is this line of thought correct. i know that if it is only for sacraficial purpose's strip it all except one candle but not so sure in this case?

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anttal63

Chris thanks again for getting me to here. as you requested close ups of the top.

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Vonsgardens

Antonio,
On sacrifice branches that come out low like that, you can leave foliage that doesn't interfere with the foliage that you want to develop. The sacrifice leader requires that you remove all foliage except at the tip so that it doesn't shade out the developing branches.

Remember that when you develop the tree you will need to reduce to two buds per branch end.

Best of luck,
John

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Rock Chester

This a very cool idea. To let a one person online work with another on a specific tree. It is slightly confusing with the many extra posts though.

Is it just me or would it be better to just let the student and the teacher continue on, especially for the future as this thread will hopefully continue on for years.

Not slapping down any one because I look at the motive and that is to help others, but just saying...