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TreeBay

Will, it's the pronouns in the second sentence in particular - and the post being an immediate reponse to Chris's - that made a few people here perceive it exactly the way I did: as a personal comment.

Regards,

Matt

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Will_Heath

In which case I will repeat my words from post #7 "I responded in kind referring to even a broader range....all students of all teachers. I apologize if I was not clear enough."

And ask that all who readthe original post it to please keep the last words in context with the rest of the post.

Rock,

Thanks for the honest comment.


Attila,

Pfffttt.



Will

HB Smith

To echo Chris' sentiments, I feel very proud and fortunate to have been able to study with Boon. I regret that on this forum recently that there has been so much negativity associated with his name. He epitomizes what a bonsai artist and teacher should be in my opinion. As I have stated before on a different forum, that as I have gotten to know Boon over the years, I am even more proud to call him friend.

If SOB's are guilty of one thing, it is that we get so excited about the comraderie and friendship that Boon has kindled into a big intercontinental bonsai family. If Boon's family isn't for you, then I hope you find your own. I would like to think that there is enough room in the bonsai universe that we can all have our own extended families and be able to express pride in our own group without offending others.

I would also like to take this oppurtunity to thank Boon for teaching me how to style and maintain my trees which bring me much joy. I have attached pictures of 3 that I had pictures of in my computer.

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mike_p

HB, if a picture is worth 1000 words, then 3 pictures are worth 3000 words. It's the "proof of the pudding".

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Mike

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Will_Heath

HB,

As always you make your point well and with the force of results. Very nice bonsai, you honor Boon.



To all,

Thanks to all who gave me positive comments viva Pm and rep points on this thread, your words are appreciated and mean a lot to me.



Will

mike_p

Rock, does that make you a SON? I think that many of us are, proudly. SONs.
I bought BONSAI TECHNIQUES many years ago. It's a first printing, and it's very worn, but always loved.

Mike

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Martinez

HB -

Beautiful trees!


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Vance Wood

I don't understand how, with bonsai of the caliber you post here, you think they are not good enough to post in your personal gallery? These are wonderfull trees by anyone's standards.

This has been my sticking point for years; those who make great claims should have something to show for their rethoric. Personally I don't expect Kimuraesc masterpieces, or Boonesc masterpieces from anyone, I don't expect them from myself, but if someone comes into this site making great claims of great knowledge I think they owe the members of this forum a look-see at their efforts.

Saying that they are students of Kimura, Yoshimura, Naka, Pall, or Boon does not automatically justify the information presented. An argument can be made that one is a student of whom ever's book they may have read.

Where the subject gets pushed over into the realm of things in need of a flame retardant, is when these individuals continue to claim that their way is the only way and if you don't do it their way it is you that are wrong. It is at this point where evidence is required----I don't think that is too much to ask.

But time and again some of these same individuals either ignore the request or find excuses for not providing the examples that they really know what they are talking about.

My brother who was and is a master of blunt and brilliant one liners was always fond of saying: "Put up or shut up". I think if you/me/anybody/everybody/ that loves bonsai and has something important to say to a group assembled together for the same purpose should be more than willing, or even obligated, to provide examples from his/hers own work to prove the value of what they say. I don't think that is too much to ask-----do you?

But please, don't disrespect me or the others on this forum by expecting us to believe everything you say just because of a teacher, or a workshop, or an ephinany from on high, or get defensive because not all accept what you say as gospel and leave it unchallenged. As has been said; one picture is worth a thousand words.

RonMartin(deceased)

Lots of good words there Vance.