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Old 28-Mar-2007   #1
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Zelkova serrata from seed questions

Hello all,

I'm interested on starting some Zelkova serrata for seed, but have a few questions.
  1. What is the best method for cold stratification? Would 6 weeks in damb peat in the fridge work?
  2. How deep should the growing pan be, and what kind of drainage should it have?
  3. What should the growing medium consist of?
  4. What conditions do the seeds need to germinate? i.e. temperature, light, humidity...
those are my questions any help and suggestions I would greatly appritiate.

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Old 28-Mar-2007   #2
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Hi Brian,

I purchased about 300 Zelkova seeds winter 2005-2006. I soaked them for 24 hours, drained and repeated this for another 24 hours. All floating seeds were removed after this time period as they hadn't imbibed any water.

I then sewed them in seed trays consisting of a high-fired clay cat litter and placed the seeds on top. I then covered them with a 5mm addition litter. The trays were then placed outside for the remainder of the winter to stratify naturally (although you could achieve the same thing in the fridge). The litter was kept damp, and only required additional water maybe once every 3 weeks or so, depending on the mildness of the weather.

I now have somewhere in the region of 200 Zelkova seedlings lol. When large enough, prick out the seedlings and pot on to larger containers.

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask.

All the best,

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Old 30-Mar-2007   #3
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Thanks Aaron. that is certianly helpful to me.


How deep were the seed trays you used?

Also, approximately what size containers did you pot the seedlings in after germination?

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Hi Brian,

The seed trays were about 2" deep. Because I had so many germinate, I was rather limited as to how many I could pot up. Some I left in the seed tray until this spring. Some I potted into 6" pots and some into a grow box.

Essentially, just provide as much root space as possible without going overboard. A 6" pot will be more than enough for a years growth.

Good luck.

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Great! Thanks again!!

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high-fired clay cat litter...snip

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What brand did you use?
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Hi Jeremy,

I use your very own Dutch "Sophisticat Pink". Excellent stuff. Rock solid, easy to tell when a top up of water is needed and it smells real purdy too lol. I think Hans van Meer uses it for perfume

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I use your very own Dutch "Sophisticat Pink". Excellent stuff. Rock solid, easy to tell when a top up of water is needed and it smells real purdy too lol. I think Hans van Meer uses it for perfume

All the best,

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OK - well that's great. I'll go and have a look for some. I currently use Seramis - which is pretty damned expensive compared to cat-litter, I expect...

Does it actually say "Made in The Netherlands" on it then? It's probably some Unilever product.
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Found it. It's made by STEETLEY - a UK company:

http://www.steetley.com/modules.php...article&sid=21#

Potenitally in Scunthorpe - often confused with Amsterdam.
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Hi Jeremy,

If memory serves me correct, its the same stuff? Diatomous clay that's high fired. I looked at Seramis a few years back and I agree with you, it isn't cheap. £7.50 for 7.5 litres. Not too bad if you have 2-3 trees to repot, but if your collection is rather large, you are looking at a hefty amount come spring.

My local pet store has an offer running at the moment. 2 x 30L bags of Sophisticat for just under £14. Much kinder on the pocket. There is virtually no waste in those bags either apart from maybe half a handfull of powder/dust at the bottom of the bag.

There's no need to screen it either. Its completely sterile. The perfume has no detrimental effects at all that I have noted and disappears after a few weeks. As a seed germination soil, I've had superb success with it with hardly any seedlings succombing to damp off. The roots love the increased air flow. Used in conjunction with pond baskets, your seedlings will develop extremely quickly.

I did actually perform a test with this litter and Scots Pine seedlings. All germinated from the same seeds.

Some were planted in litter and a pond basket
Some were planted in litter and regular plant pots
Some were planted in compost in a plant pot

I will recharge the camera and post some pictures tomorrow.

All the best,

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