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Old 26-Jan-2005   #1
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root cutings from korean hornbeam...?

today i was repotting my korean hornbeam turzcanzonovii and there were alot or real big roots underneath from 1 inch to half an inch...so i remover and poted seperate hoping they will sprout...

has anyone ever heard of rootcuttings succsesfully from korean hornbeam...?

or should i try to graft branches instead?
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Old 26-Jan-2005   #2
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Its always worth a try, did you use rooting hormone? i have no experience with root cuttings but heck, why not use the bits that are left over
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Old 26-Jan-2005   #3
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didnt need rooting hormone because the roots were ,...well ,...filled with roots...hehe...

i hope it works...fingers crossed..!
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The point of rooting hormone is to give roots a kickstart at producing foliage and more roots, so personally i think it would have been a good idea to use rooting hormone, but thats upto you.


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didnt know that...
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Old 27-Jan-2005   #6
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Rooting hormone contains gibberilliac acid which induces root growth. Auxins, a different hormone produce buds or shoots. Many roots will die off unless the plant sprouts some leaves to nourish them. More root hormone will not make any shoots come out any faster. If this species will produce shoots froma rooted cutting it will do it on its own roots just fine.

I have had Chinese elms take root in the bottom of the compost heap, a pile of clippings on the ground, or anyplace that gives the roots someplace to hide. I hope your Hornbeam is one that will. That may be something that you can pass on to the whole forum, and that would be a good thing.

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ahh right, i stand corrected, i apologise dancinzen i got it wrong, i must admit though i might try this myself at somepoint, it sounds very interesting.


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Quote:
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Rooting hormone contains gibberilliac acid which induces root growth. Auxins, a different hormone produce buds or shoots.
We went through this one 2 years ago Al, you are still lost in the woods:

Auxin is produced by the shoot and inhibits the development of buds while it simultaneously encourages the development of roots. So, when you pinch back, you remove the source of auxin, remove the inhibition, and allow dormant buds an opportunity to develop. As they grow into shoots, those new buds begin to produce their own auxin, inhibiting competing buds while stimulating more roots and so forth.

The most common rooting hormones that mimic IAA (indole acetic acid) and are used for rooting are IBA (indole butyric acid) and naphthalene acetic acid (NAA); all are auxins - hormones that regulate growth

gibberellic acid is in a category of hormone. It is reported to affects growth positively, causing the elongation of shoots, flowering and seed development. I haven't seen it in rooting hormone, but I could believe it would be in some kind of Tomato Wonder Tonic

auxins
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/...n/m0007030.html

IBA
http://www.super-grow.biz/IndoleBut...tingHormone.jsp


Plant Hormones
http://www.quickgrow.com/gardening_...t_hormones.html

As for root cuttings: I've had zero success with maple roots growing shoots. An article in Bonsai Today showed some grafting of shoots onto root cuttings worked with success. I would expect about the same result with hornbeam root cuttings,, but I have not tried, so more power to you. That is just a gut reaction. Persimmon root cuttings work close to 100%, though, as do Liquidambar.

Given its shoot-inhibiting properties, rooting hormone would not be a good choice to help encourage shoot growth. It would probably have the opposite effect. The main transport of auxin is downward, but it is an inhibitor to bud development.

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Matt is right most rooting hormones contain ingredients that will slow or even stop bud growth. Would not be my choice to use it but if you want to try let us know the outcome.
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