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Old 18-May-2006   #31
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Just had a proper look at the timescales we're talking about here. Remember, patience is the key!! These seedlings sound to have been germinated/potted/planted/potted all within the space of a couple of months, patience dude!!!! After germination you have a choice. Pot on into 2 inch pots like you did, or plant out, after germination potting is often the best idea because of how small they are. After this, typically a full growing season would be given before potting up again or planting out, so if you potted them spring 2006 then you might plant out spring 2007, then leave them for as long as possible, just digging up and root pruning perhaps every 2 years.

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Old 26-May-2006   #32
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Thanks Rowan,

i would have loved to leave them in the ground, but now that summer is here I really saw the defficiencies of the growing bed, not to mention the leaves were starting to turn from a deep green to a sickly yellow. since potting them back up they are responding well and starting to push new leaves.

now that they are in pots I plan on leaving them there. This species has a desert growth character, and if given the chance will send roots as deep as the will possibly go. I think it might be best to keep them in pots for the first couple seasons to have the best chance at decent nebari.

Patience is a virtue that I'm stil wreslting with, but in this case I think I made the right decision

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Old 5-Jul-2006   #34
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Poots, that is just too AWESOME!!!

Quick update on the seedlings; One sadly perished, but the other two are really taking off. I'll post some pics when i get a chance. They really responded well to the greenhouse environment. once I find a place where i know I'll be settling in for a few years I'll plant them in the ground and let them grow wild.

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Well, my seedlings are still growing. The first one has really exploded with growth. The second one however is going more slowly. Hopefully it will take off just like its sibling
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Old 13-Feb-2007   #36
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Just in case anyone is watching

Today I just planted 80 Cercocarpus Montanus, mountain mahogany, seeds.

This will be my second attempt at germinating these seeds. Last time around I had 5 seeds germinate -- 3 survived as seedlings -- thanks to a friend's dog 1 survives today.

I started stratifying these seeds in November 2006. They have been at about 38 degrees F since early November, ~90 days. Prior to their going in the fridge they soaked overnight in a glass of water.

last year I had germination after 13 days. I expect it to be longer this time since I do not have a heating pad under the seed tray. According to literature seeds should germinate within 21 days. After three weeks I'll update this post hopefully with some good news.

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And we have germination. two seeds poked their head through the soil. after about ten days. I think the long stratification really helped

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In case anyone is curious..... Mountain mahoganies are not easily propgated by seeds.

My new crop all died due to damping off. My crop from last year have yet to come out of dormancy.

buy them from a nursery or collect them.

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last year, I had problems with "damping off". This year, I treated my seeds with Daconil (a common and inexpensive, garden fungicide) and have seen zero damping off problems. The seeds I have sown this year were are stratified and then started under grow lights. I also used a small desk fan on the shelf, which provided 24 hour a day air movement.

I believe the combo of the fungicide (applied every 2 weeks while seeds where being stratified and about 7-10 days after sowing) in conjunction with good air flow reduced damping-off to zero.

Oh yeah, bottom heat from seedling matts helps too.
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