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Old 9-Apr-2007   #1
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Question First attempt at nicking a seed...

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There is not much information on propagation of Adansonia gregorii around... (australian baobab) So I'm trying to write some at the same time!

I've searched about nicking seeds and it's quite simple as a concept, but in practice it might get harder.

Adansonia seeds are ... tough ones I think. No idea what other seeds can be like, but I hardly imagine worse.
At first I was like yay, it's easy enough, using my swiss knife I was scratching the back of one of these seeds. Then I though it might be a good idea to go deeper... I was only removing the air thin coating.
Surprise!! That dark coating is like a rock! Totally. Couln't do nothing with the knife, not even a little scratch. My father handed me some little metal files... It worked, obviously. But now I'd like to know from people who already did some of that nicking job if I did something good... See the picture please!

I stopped when I saw a change in the matter color... when it got brown.

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Hold it and rub on sandpaper works too, still have all your fingers, that must have been a little tense.
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Yup, just wondering if it's enough, too much, not enough, shoud I denude it more? Or is it just okay.. so that water can find it's way in, no matter how hard it will be to break the shell after that?...

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Yup, just wondering if it's enough, too much, not enough, shoud I denude it more? Or is it just okay.. so that water can find it's way in, no matter how hard it will be to break the shell after that?...

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With Ginkgo seeds, I have tried nicking the seeds coat, till one day I tried without any seedcoat. They all germinated. 8/8.
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You completely removed the hard shell?!?.. and it didn't break the "eye" of the seed!? That's interesting...

And before you tried that, about what was the ratio of successful germinations?

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Hey Max,

I have never had trouble with some of the harder coated species. the Baobab (adansonai digitata) and dwarf coral (lucky bean)also have pretty tough coats, but soaking in warm water has given me great results. the softened coats make nicking the seed easier or not at all necessary as the warm water will soften the coats enough for the seedling to push through.

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I used sandpaper on several different species of adansonia. I sanded one little spot through the hard coat and then soaked them in hot water over night. Germination rate was close to 100%.
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You completely removed the hard shell?!?.. and it didn't break the "eye" of the seed!? That's interesting...

And before you tried that, about what was the ratio of successful germinations?

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With hard shell I had close to 85% germination.

I think sandpaper would be your best method and that way you dont risk of damaging the inner seeds.

I must admit that by trying to remove the hardshell of ginkgo, I damage a few of them before I found the trick to remove the coating without damaging.
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It must be relatively a lot of work... to sand a way around the seed so that you can decapsulate it. I should try with some of these Adansonia seeds... Now I'd only need some good soil.. they need compost and sand.. actually have none.

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Okay, thanks, so with what I did I should be good anyway...

Andy
Thank you too, good advice, I might try to soak the BEFORE I try to remove some coatings as Camay123 suggested.

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