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3-Sep-2004
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Collecting Seeds
hi again guys.I want to know when is the right time to collect seeds and in which medium i should keep them during stratification?And if i should soak them in water before or after stratification. THNX
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Ok, mostly the collecting time for seeds is late autumn when they are nice and ripe. (i think thats the same for all trees but may be different for others in your country?)
For stratification i wrap the seeds in damp kitchen roll (not wet, damp) and check about once a week to make sure it hasnt dried out, also to move the seeds around a lil bit. Soaking in my experience always comes before stratification, but some trees you have i dont so things may differ a bit. (use hot water from the tap, i find it a bit better than boiled, and also change the water fairly frequently over the soaking time period) Ive mentioned it in a couple of other posts, but only because it was the best guide to tree seed germination i found: Tree Seed Germination Info. Hope that helps (by the way if you collect some and are interested in trading, pm me)
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3-Sep-2004
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Hi, D3. I've collected lots of seeds and had very good success with them. In fact, my big problem now is how deal with my over-abundance of 2-3 year old trees.
I found collecting and starting them a no-brainer. I just started carrying plastic sandwich bags around with me from September to November and then again in the Spring and when I saw seeds on trees, bushes or the ground, I collected some. When I got home, I spread them on the soil outside in my vegetable garden or in pots which I left outside, covered them with a light layer of soil and let Nature take its course. Before long Spring came and I had lots and lots of seedlings. A few species did not germinate. Some of them came up, to my surprise - most notably, Eastern Red Cedar - , the next Spring. Others simply did not germinate. Crab Apple was a notable example. Found out later, Crab Apple is notorious for poor germination. I guess there are ways to make it more complicated, but that was my experience. Fred Fred |
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3-Sep-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master
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thanks a lot guys. The reason i've asked this noobish question is that i've bought one of those bonsai starter kits just for fun. And i was wondering if i should stratify the seeds given, or just plant them in the spring without any stratification? there are no instructions on the box of course
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3-Sep-2004
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Oh, boy, D3, you could have just about anything from some really great seeds, fresh and ready to plant, to old, dry seeds that can't possibly germinate.
Can you tell us what kind of seeds you have? If I'm familiar with the species, I can tell you what I'd do. Other people may have better advice for you, also. Fred |
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4-Sep-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master
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i;ve got maples, cercis, pinus pinea,pinus parvifolia,wisteria.The main question should be if seeds can be stratified twice
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4-Sep-2004
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Well, D3, I'm a very simple minded guy and like simple solutions. If it were me, in my ignorance, I'd get a clay pot for each type of seed, fill it with bonsai soil and, scatter the seeds on the surface of the soil, cover perhaps 1/8" deep and put the pots outside. I'd water regularly, just like with a bonsai. I'd do this immediately. Quite possibly, some of the seeds might sprout immediately, but when this has happened to me, the seedlings overwintered just fine. I'd expect the majority of the seeds to sprout in the Spring. In any case, I found most of the seeds I've collected sprouted and I was soon the possessor of so many seedlings, I had no idea what to do with them all.
It's alot harder to know what will happen with seeds that are from another area and possibly a considerably different climate than locally collected seed. You might want to collect some seeds from local trees and shrubs and apply the same technique. When I started looking around at local trees and shrubs I soon found so many seeds available from excellent varieties for bonsai that it really never occurred to me to go after seeds from other sources. Fred |
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