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Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Carlsbad, California..coastal desert
Country: United States
USDA Zone: 11
Posts: 5,462
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......RUN! Joanie
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Professional Amateur
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Wayne,
we haven't propagated them. When we have had them in the past they were seedlings from one of the liner sales sources that we have used. Was never much demand so we switched over to Bald Cypress seeds/seedlings. For real specimen trees we just dig them in the swamps. Crowned-one, best of luck. You will need to keep control on these real tight, they will tend to grow straight as posts- which means they will not have any taper, without taper they make lousy formal uprights. You will need to grow them and cut back a few times to get taper- my limited experience with them is that they are very apically dominant and tend to grow like pipes. John
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Tachigi says I'm a Grower
Join Date: May-2007
Location: Ora, Laurens Cty, SC
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7a
AHS Heat Zone: 8?
Posts: 250
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Wasn't trying to disrespect anyone. Not trying to be a high and mighty alpha but I'm not going to be a lowly submissive beta either. I know these trees are fast growers and don't provide much taper in the trunk. I have been doing my homework on the growth habits of the trees I am wanting to work with. To me, with DR's, the only style is formal upright. Plus since they don't give much tapering I figured they would look halfway decent in a forest planting. All I was needing to know can I try to get any use out of what I will eventually cut off the trees(their tops). Instead of cutting them off and throwing them away.
Wayne, no need to apologize. I moved on with it. And you didn't have to leave the chat lastnight. Yes, I do think of ya as a good guy with a good heart. To everyone else I apologize if I offended, upset, ticked off or disrespected. I will just leave. I will, or if I can't, request that I be unregistered to this site. Wish y'all well and farewell. Hope you all never see me again. Adios |
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Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Carlsbad, California..coastal desert
Country: United States
USDA Zone: 11
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I always wonder why the internet brings out the worst in human interaction. Apologize and move forward, and try to interact more professionally with people on the forum in the future, and everyone will forget. We've all had bad days.... but there's no need for the Last Farewell here.
(shaking head) Joanie
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
Join Date: Jan-2005
Location: SE Massachusetts
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 6
AHS Heat Zone: 4-5
Posts: 613
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I've heard that semi-hardwood cuttings root fairly easily...I believe now might be the time to collect them. The 'Goldrush' cultivar may not be as easy to propagate by cuttings...that is why they are usually grafted. I would suspect that trees that root cuttings well would also layer well, but I've never layered a dawn redwood, so take it as you will. Good luck,
Dave PS Joanie, I think the flaring tempers/poor behavior seen regularly on internet forums is very similar to road rage (we have alot of that in the greater Boston area). People are physically insulated from those they are interacting with and are able to lose their common sense and their manners and act innappropriately when put off by someone elses comments(on the web) or actions(on the road). Kind of silly, but thats human nature , I guess. |
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Tachigi says I'm a Grower
Join Date: May-2007
Location: Ora, Laurens Cty, SC
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7a
AHS Heat Zone: 8?
Posts: 250
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I do know that propagating the "Goldrush" from seeds is very difficult. Sowed 200+ and not a single one took. Never tried my hand at grafting plus I don't have any grafting stock to even attempt it. As far as I can tell I do not see a graft scar on these. I will contact the nursery I purchased these from and find out. I guess if it comes down to it when I feel it's time to cut back I can just discard what I cut off. Thanks.
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Hec DeBrabant
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I'll toss this out for what its worth. A friend of mine has several Dawn Redwoods in his yard (not sure of what variety) but he takes cuttings regularly and has a high success rate doing it.
He uses no rooting hormone but just pushes them into the ground where ever he needs one to grow. The taper is very gradual on them but it takes only a short time to get them to a size to be used for a forest. Good luck, Hector
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Tachigi says I'm a Grower
Join Date: May-2007
Location: Ora, Laurens Cty, SC
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7a
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Now that is interesting. Would you happen to know what type of soil is his property? Here it is pure red clay and sand. Very little if any viable topsoil unless you go into the woods where decades, if not centuries, of vegative buildup has broke down. I really haven't had any success in getting cuttings to root. Whether I use a rooting hormone(I use Clonex) or not. I have tried cuttings from procumbens & shimpaku junipers, yaupon holly, ficus benjamina.
As far as the difference in the Goldrush DR and your plain-jane DR, to me it's the lighter green color of the foliage. But from what I have read on this cultivar is that it came about from irradiated seeds. Which I'm understanding it as that at some point a DR was exposed to radiation. Haven't seen mine glowing in the dark yet ![]() |
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Hec DeBrabant
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I am not sure about soil but I know he did this in what he calls a "mountain scape" so to build it up I would think he added soil, more likely what is called top soil.
The soil that is in the pots he gave me with some of these trees does not look like its anything more than run of the mill garden soil. I have had great luck with cuttings using aged pine bark which is the same as what I use to mix my bonsai soil. It holds moisture well and allows roots to grow freely. Hector
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http://www.tellys.com http://www.Fourseasonsbonsai.com The original Four Seasons Bonsai Club of Michigan. Guest master Pedro Morales visit was a huge success. Tellys Greenhouse, 3301 John R road, Troy Mi. 48083 Four Seasons Bonsai Club meetings monthly. Troy, Michigan "Anything is possible when you don't know what you are doing"................someone famous I think. |
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Tachigi says I'm a Grower
Join Date: May-2007
Location: Ora, Laurens Cty, SC
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7a
AHS Heat Zone: 8?
Posts: 250
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I will keep that info in mind when I decide what I'm gonna do. Got in contact with the seller and she said that these(my trees) are grafted. They are grafted onto regular metasequoia stock. She also said she has tried rooting cuttings from these with no success. I'll just have to see how things go over the next 1-3 yrs. Thanks again
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