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Old 8-Dec-2005   #1
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About starting Bonsai from seeds

Im interested in comments from people, regarding the use of seeds in Bonsai.

Do you grow bonsai from seeds ? if so, what is your favorite specie ?

Do you use any special technique to start your seedling on the right path ?

Do you use seeds for oither purpose ? such as graft stock ?

What are your source for seeds ?

Do you sow in fall for spring germination ? or use a force technique with the refridgerator ?

Any other comments are welcome, this is sort of a discussion thread.

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hi, i love propagating from seed, i know it is not "bonsai" but it is an interest that runs parallel to it for me. I buy from www.sandemanseeds.com. Its often fun to try and find a species they do,nt stock!
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I try to choose fairly fast growers that are not easy from cuttings or ones that I do not have access to a suitable stock plant. last years purchases where rather last minute so I chose species that required no stratification such as ulmus, metasequioa, sequioa, quercus suber, cunninghamia and taxodium. In previous years when time has allowed I,ve had a wonderful time collecting seed especially acer palmatums (these seem best fresh) and various other acers. one of these collected around 1997 is beginning to show some potential as a shohin, I know there are quicker ways but for satisfaction I think this is personally very worthwhile, regards Andrew
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This year, I started getting into bonsai and as an off shoot I started getting interested in turning trees I had around the house into bonsai. But I didn't think my parents would appreciate me tearing up their landscaping, so I started collecting seeds. I collect a lot of acer palmatum, bloodgoods, but especially small leaf small seed varieties. I collected some japanese black pine, spruce, cornus, princess persimmon, and then I went to the forest behind my house and collected some carpinus virginiana. There are also several female ginkgo trees at my University where I collected seeds from. I read about how to treat the seeds online and most are stratifying in the fridge now, I don't trust squirrels

I don't plan on using all I collect for bonsai, but only the best seeds, especially out of the japanese maples. The seedlings that are expecially vigorous, I might use as root stock to graft scions of dissectum onto. My parents and my grandparents have 5 or 6 different specimen to try out. The rest I may just grow for landscaping or cheap presents XD

From what I've heard, trident maples grow fast from seed, at my club some people in the area have managed to put out 2-3 inch trunk trees in 10 years which is very promising to me.

But I have still bought trees from nurseries and gotten some as gifts so that I'm not just waiting for years to have something to do
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Do they have an american currency list? I don't understand the prices.
Probably not, currency converters are available online.
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I to am interested in grown from seed. I have not tried it as yet but I have collected some acer palmatum seeds and will give it a go. Although I am not sure on how to start. The seeds were collected in November (end of spring here in Oz. It is summer here now). At this stage they are drying out for storage. I will then place them in the freezer for a month and put them into a seed bed in late autumn and see what happens. I will follow this thread with interest and hopefully get / contribute some useful information...
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From what I've heard, trident maples grow fast from seed, at my club some people in the area have managed to put out 2-3 inch trunk trees in 10 years which is very promising to me.

I can vouch for that, altough not all trident maple seedling grow fast, I had a few that are promising. One particulary has really short internodes and grow very fast. After germination in june, the seedling is now 4 feet high with internodes every 3/4 inch, and girth of trunk is 3/8 - 1/2 inch thick.

This is what I like to do with seedling. Sow alot of them, and keep only the promising one. The one with good bonsai characteristics.

I also like to sow, japanese maple, green and red, as the color of foliage can sometime vary from the original color. Very fun.

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