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Tree of the Day - Wednesday April 20, 2005
Tree of the Day - Tuesday, April 19, 2005
This forum is an experiment that has evolved out of some of the activities on the bonsaischool program. I'm going to select a bonsai each day to spark group discussion.
ABOUT TODAY'S TREE: Today's tree is a Japanese White Pine (Pinus parvifolia). You can make notes with the pencil tool underneath the attachment.
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Air Assault All The Way.
Join Date: Mar-2004
Location: Huntersville, NC (near Charlotte)
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7-8
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Wow, what a great pine. Now this is bonsai!!!
This bonsai is so good, I have second thoughts about saying anything. The only real change I would like is some expansion of foliage on the left side in the apex "pad". Some moss would be nice on the bland soil surface. The pot is okay, but it has a standard terra cotta color that is not very interesting. Of course, this bonsai is so nice, who cares? John
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Arborial tendencies
Join Date: Feb-2004
Country: UK
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Wow....another stunner.
Agree with John, maybe a little more seperation between pads...If I owned a tree like this I'd be pretty nervous about doing anything to it. But there again I doubt I will ever own a White Pine of this quality. |
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Square Tree - Round Pot!
Join Date: May-2004
Location: Walsall U.K.
Country: United Kingdom
USDA Zone: 8
AHS Heat Zone: 1/2
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John,
I agree whole heartedly agree with your observations. I held back myself since in my eyes there is little to do really. Perhaps some would prefer to see a little more light between the branches. Seeing how tight some of them are, I wonder how this tight structure would be good for long term health of the inner foliage, but then it looks healthy enough to me. A pot change to a muted glazed slightly shallower oval may be a consideration, but in my view, easily the BEST tree we have seen on TOTD so far. LOVE IT! Arnie got in there just as I was composing - glad he agrees about more daylight ! Last edited by Ian_Homer : 20-Apr-2005 at 10:33 AM. |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: South San Francisco, CA
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As others have said, the tree could use a little spacing between the branches. What bothered me the most, is the top. It seems bulbous and out of balance. I trimmed it down some. Comments?
Mike
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
Join Date: Apr-2005
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I am a newbie. But it helps to read otheres comments. Utsogushi(beautiful) When reading others comments it helps me invision what they are saying thanks to everyone who comments... BK
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I stand and stare a lot
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I think that this is a great tree.
My only point of comment is that the apex looks "detached" from the rest of the tree. I would simply bring the front of the apex down in to the obvious gap to unify the "tight" look of the tree. I don't really have a problem with the lack of open space between the foliage layers. They are well defined and the shadows they lay on to each other imply that open space for me. Mike
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Everything that everybody has said is for the most part true. The one real problem I have with this tree is a lack of comitment. The trunk, which in my opinion, is the introduction to the story the rest of the tree is trying to tell.
The base of the trunk is very interesting even though the nebari does not follow the rules. This element is lost in the rest of the tree as being too over-grown and conflicted in direction. It is a beautiful tree but it could be more. The fact that it is a J. White Pine almost makes it unapproachable as far as criticizim is concerned. In writting this I am almost waiting for the somewhat predictable response of " How dare you criticize such a beautiful tree?" My answer to that would be; I have trees that fall into the same catagory of an irresolute double entander as does this one. It is a beautiful tree and deserves the attention necessary to turn it into a masterpiece. In short here is how I see what has happened. This tree has a very interesting attractive Nebari but I don't have an inspiration as what to do with the rest of the tree. Years go by, the tree is very well cared for, the new growth is pinched and ocassionally trimed back but there has never been an effort to trun this tree into a world class bonsai. The foliage has been developed into pads but because no decision as to the final shape of the tree has been made the Apex seems to not know where it is going and the trunk, its now best feature, is left to stand with its fly open while the rest of the tree takes off and does something else. If I have offended anyone please forgive me, but you post it, you asked and ye shall receive. Last edited by Vance Wood : 20-Apr-2005 at 04:43 PM. |
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I stand and stare a lot
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Vance,
you make a very interesting point there. Having read your response and then looked at the tree a second time (a lot more closely than the first), I noticed that I toally missed the trunk base. The foliage (and especially the apex) is so dominat that the trunk and base are nearly reduced in to insignificance. This second time around, I can suddenly see a very powerful (but much smaller) tree in there. I wish you could elaborate on your thoughts. Mike
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bonsai is not my hobby
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I would suggest the following from a European styling point of view:
Things have moved on in bonsai. No spaces between branches anymore in modern bonsai design. Only here and there, but not as a common rule. This has become beaten to death and is a feature of the state of the art of 30 years ago. The same applies to the 'triangle'. Forget the triangle for old pines. They have a roundish sort of top. Crown much smaller.
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