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Old 25-Apr-2005   #1
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Tree of the Day - Monday April 25, 2005

This forum is an experiment that has evolved out of some of the activities on the bonsaischool program.

I'm going to select a bonsai each day to spark group discussion.
  • Trees of the day don't belong to anyone you're likely to know, so there is very little chance that you're going to hurt anyone's feelings with your honest opinions, critique and suggestions. This is key.
  • However, if you recognize the tree, please keep it to yourself until at least the next day.
  • If you have a tree-of-the-day you'd like to submit, you can start a new thread (not a new post) in this forum. It won't appear immediately.
Some questions to ask about the tree of the day
  1. What are the tree's strengths?
  2. What are its weaknesses?
  3. How could the tree be improved?
  4. Does the tree have a message you could define in words?
  5. How would you arrange the tree with other elements to create an interesting two or three-point display?
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ABOUT TODAY'S TREE: Today's tree is a Corkbark Chinese Elm You can make notes with the pencil tool underneath the attachment.

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Old 25-Apr-2005   #2
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Firstly, I love these trees as they have fantastic bark and really tiny leaves.

However, the cork is prone to "exploding" in various places and giving the impression of reverse taper, which is what appears to have happened here just under that first branch.

Without "seeing" the tree itself, it is difficult to imagine the surgery to remove it would be wise. Now doubt, some will suggest its removal, with the hope of developing the branch above it. This process, as well as the bark replacement will take at least 5-10 years. You are also removing the very "character" of this little one, so I would prefer to leave it as it is.

My only change then, would be a shallower pot in a light or mid green to compliment the foilage, or you could go to a grey with rough texture to match the bark. Either way, at the moment the existing pot is too bright and draws the eye first.

Nice little tree.

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Old 25-Apr-2005   #3
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Firstly, I love these trees as they have fantastic bark and really tiny leaves.

However, the cork is prone to "exploding" in various places and giving the impression of reverse taper, which is what appears to have happened here just under that first branch.

Without "seeing" the tree itself, it is difficult to imagine the surgery to remove it would be wise. Now doubt, some will suggest its removal, with the hope of developing the branch above it. This process, as well as the bark replacement will take at least 5-10 years. You are also removing the very "character" of this little one, so I would prefer to leave it as it is.

My only change then, would be a shallower pot in a light or mid green to compliment the foilage, or you could go to a grey with rough texture to match the bark. Either way, at the moment the existing pot is too bright and draws the eye first.

Nice little tree.

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Agreed Ian. I can't think of anything else to add.

This will be a busy week for me, so not much chance of posting very often. I'll check if I get a chance, but otherwise I'll "talk" with ya'll next week.

John
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Old 25-Apr-2005   #4
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One could put a stone in the hole or glue some bark there.
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What an awesome tree. I love all kinds of elms and this one is wonderful, luckily I have a little time for a virtual and a comment to go along with it before I head off to school for the day.

I would also like to touch on the subject about the bark, as you cansee in my virtual, I have cut it back somewhat to go along with the tree, if it was my tree and it was possible I would make a cut like that along with a good amount of cut paste. Maybe that branch could be used for another tree?
Next in the virtual if you notice, I trimmed around the tree, a small prune/pinching. This will not only let the tree bud back with more titely placed leaves but also looks more uniform IMO. On the two lowest branch in the virtual you can see that I pruned away the leaves there also and opened your eyes to the lower actual branches.
Lastly, the red circles are where new growth should be going asap, with those spots filled up, this tree will look even better. This is an extremely nice cork bark chinese elm and boy would I like to have it, lol.
I might repot this, in a more shallow light grey pot (couldnt find a good one for the virtual, my time is limited.) But I wouldnt be in a rush to do so.

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Old 25-Apr-2005   #6
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I like this tree too. Great bark and trunk. My concern is the difference between the left and right sides. The left looks like a conifer, the right decideous. Also, the #1 branch is growing up instead of down. I would like to see the area between the #3 branch and apex filled in to create a better crown and lot leave a gap. Otherwise a great tree.


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One could put a stone in the hole or glue some bark there.

I have to ask If you attach live material to a rock, is it a rocknuki?
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Mike,

it's the other way round. I implant a stone into a trunk. But it can be still called rocknuki.
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I definitely prefer Walter's pot shape, but I'm more ambivalent towards the color. This elm appears to me to be in the range of 10"-14" and while not exactly shohin, I tend to lean towards a more eye-catching color on smaller trees. I have to admit the size of the bonsai would dictate my preference for pot color.

Oh well, back to work.

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I've seen Lindsay Shiba using in a demo waterproof cement to improve the trunk of some pomegranates.

With this tree, instead of implanting a rock, we could also add a little cement to the base of the tree and then cover the wet cement with pieces of bark from the same tree.

Properly done, one could never tell that once there was a reverse taper.

Edit: I better add that when using cement, the bark needs to be removed first, so that the cement is added to the wood below. Otherwise, if there is live bark under the cement, it will fall off due to the growing bark.

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