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Today's tree is a Hinoki Cypress. (Chamaecyparis obtusa) you may use the pencil tool beneath the attachment to make notes.
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Air Assault All The Way.
Join Date: Mar-2004
Location: Huntersville, NC (near Charlotte)
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 7-8
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The slingshot trunks are too much. I would suggest moving the right (subordinate) trunk closer to the main one and jinning out the top of it. I like the pot and the tree is healthy. I can live with the high "split", but it just doesn't appeal to me as is. In my virtual I see a more natural appearance, but that's just my opinion.
Matt, on yesterday's white pine, since when do you not bring the apex back on a slanting style? I was always taught to do that. They must have had a really dumb student ...me.John
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Square Tree - Round Pot!
Join Date: May-2004
Location: Walsall U.K.
Country: United Kingdom
USDA Zone: 8
AHS Heat Zone: 1/2
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Sorry, late today due to tech' problems connecting.
I am very much with John on the branch and jin on the right, but have kept a little more foliage on the smaller trunk, while removing more on the left. Just looks a little more "natural" to me, which (IMO) is how this particular tree will look best. Ian |
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BonsaiTalk Master B.S.er
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Richardson, Texas
Country: God Bless America
USDA Zone: 8
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I looked at this one several times this morning. At first, I didn't want to comment (because I don't know how to correct it), but since I hold a slightly different view, I'll throw it out there for what it is worth. I dont like this tree at all. I despise the pidgeon trunk on the right altogether. I'd like to completely remove it at the trunk line, and then work the tree from there. however, not knowing much about this species, (I beleive I read they are extremely reluctant to bud on old wood), that would mean after you remove the right trunk, you would end up with this fat trunk for the first couple of inches, and then instant bottle neck taper. Maybe a more advanced artist can tackle that issue, I just know what my eye doesn't like, and I am not sure how to correct it. If it were mine, I would bring it to the next club meeting and see if I could get some advice from the experts, if they did not have anything to offer, then a landscape tree it would become.
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I give up on this one. I have looked at it all day and I can not come up with anything.
I am looking forward to see what others think. Mike
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Square Tree - Round Pot!
Join Date: May-2004
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Hi Ralph,
The beauty of this thread over the club situation is:- 1. We will all see a larger selection of fairly decent trees. 2. You can read and understand the likes/dislikes and then the techniques used by other enthusiasts on the SAME tree. And the best 3. Its ALL done "virtually" without cutting a single leaf or twig, so no harm is ever done. Use the sketchpad to try lots of different effects to end up with the one you like best. If we can get a few more regular contributors to this area, we will all benefit immensely. I am not saying every tree posted will be to our liking - but at least I think the virtual by John and myself has a little more "bonsai style" than the original, which without offence to the owner, is more suited to planting by a Koi pond. Best wishes, Ian. |
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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This is my first attempt at this so let me know if i'm wrong here .This tree doesnt work for me and I think I finally figured out why . The trunk on the right side doesnt seem to have much taper also the upper part of the tree seems a little to busy I think it need some thinning of branches. I'm not sure what to do to improve the tree .Cutting and jinning the trunk I dont think will work or would cutting the trunk off completely. This is a tough one to figure out and again if i'm wrong please let me know I really want to learn from this.
Thanks Steve
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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What are the tree's strengths?
Healthy foliage. What are its weaknesses? No real character. Lack of taper. Awkward shape in the two-trunk line. Spindly branches. How could the tree be improved? Prune almost all of the foliage off of it, wire the tar out of it and bend it into a contorted bunjin. Or give it to your niece and teach her how to keep it alive. She keeps it alive for two or three years, she gets the one youv'e been working on with her for the past three years. Does the tree have a message you could define in words? "I'm just a practice tree so get off my back." is what it sez to me. ![]() How would you arrange the tree with other elements to create an interesting two or three-point display? Mmmm...not so much. |
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bonsaiTALK Expert
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ok
the second trunk is pretty clearly the major problem. i do feel that this tree has more potential than others seem think. i have no experience with this species, or with creating deadwood. if possible, i think it could be cool to create a shari and small jin of the offending branch. other areas need correcting too, but are much more minor than the second trunk which i see as the main issue. mainly, the lowest branches are too thin and long, some of the branches need refining, and most of the foliage clouds are too bushy. i'm also not a fan of the pot, save for an elegant literati/bunjin. i also like mr. dixons proposal for making the second trunk more parallel with the main trunk, but i'm assuming it wouldn't be possible to get a such a heavy bend in the branch - again, i have no experience with this species. i think this tree could be very nice some day. toby
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Join Date: Aug-2004
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heres my virtual
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