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Old 12-Jan-2005   #1
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Artistic Display

There's been lots of palaver here concerning art and artistic display.
To shed more light, and less heat on the subject, I propose a forum on this site that's devoted to 3 point display, with discussion and critique.
The one main rule would be that any images posted would have the three components of classic tokonoma display. Since this site is about bonsai, the displays should feature a bonsai, a scroll, and the third element could be kusamono, suiseki, or an appropriate artifact.
Comments anyone? Are you out there Matt? What do you think?

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Old 12-Jan-2005   #2
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It would go well with the upcoming contest but why limit it to three point displays? Why not simply "Artist Display?"


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Mike, I like the idea of a specific place for 3-point displays.

Will, if we accept that ALL bonsai display is artistic (or should be) then we arrive at a 'show-and-tell' type of category, which we already have.

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Instead of 3 point display with scroll, I would much more prefer "Formal Display".
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Will, if we accept that ALL bonsai display is artistic (or should be) then we arrive at a 'show-and-tell' category, which we already have.


Chris,

Although I see the point you are making, I have to disagree. The show and tell section as it is now is not for artistic posting, nor are the posts there critiques for artistic quality. It has a wide range of bonsai, from seedlings to fully developed trees, but none based solely on artistic display.

All bonsai displays are not artistic Chris. I would even have to say that all three point displays are not artistic either, would you agree?

As Mike said, "There's been lots of palaver here concerning art and artistic display." He made a good point and was right in saying that we really have no place to concentrate solely on Artistic Display. My question is why should we start out discriminating and leave out all forms of artistic display except for the three point display?

Is the two point display less valid? Is the artistic qualities of a well designed bonsai as it stands alone not worthy of artistic critiques? Lets open a place for Artistic Discussion and Critiques by all means but lets not limit or tag what is artistic or not. After all even in a open artistic forum, we can all tell a three point from a two point display and they will stand on their own.

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Instead of 3 point display with scroll, I would much more prefer "Formal Display".

That about covers it all.




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There's been lots of palaver here concerning art and artistic display.
To shed more light, and less heat on the subject, I propose a forum on this site that's devoted to 3 point display, with discussion and critique.
The one main rule would be that any images posted would have the three components of classic tokonoma display. Since this site is about bonsai, the displays should feature a bonsai, a scroll, and the third element could be kusamono, suiseki, or an appropriate artifact.
Comments anyone? Are you out there Matt? What do you think?

Mike


Great idea Mike. I also would like to open it up to all formal display, not just three point with a scroll. Thinking about the BIB show, most of those fantastic displays are not three point with a scroll.
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It would go well with the upcoming contest but why limit it to three point displays? Why not simply "Artist Display?"


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What is this contest?

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Mike, I like the idea of a specific place for 3-point displays.

Will, if we accept that ALL bonsai display is artistic (or should be) then we arrive at a 'show-and-tell' type of category, which we already have.

Regards,

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An important part of the practice of bonsai is the artistic display thereof. And, the most classic of these displays involves 3 elements. 3 is an important number in many philosophies. The Trinity for example.
In tokonoma display the "trinity" is Man, Heaven, and Earth. Bonsai as man, the scroll reaching to heaven, and the accent as earth.
An artistic bonsai can be shown in Show and Tell, or Ask the Master. For what I propose, we study and practice the "trinity" of artistic display.
This may not be something that appeals to enough people to make it work. However, I did want to start a discussion so as to see if there is an interest.

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I am here - how about a Formal Display folder in the Gallery which members could submit to? The only difference being - fewer forums here to get lost in. People can rate the displays as well as comment. The only downside is that they can't post virtuals there.

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