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26-Nov-2006
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What importance a title
 
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Beginners Mind
"The old Zen masters called a "beginner’s mind" an attitude that your knowledge is never sufficient or complete, and thus you must be perennially receptive to receiving a lesson at any time and from wherever you are and whatever it is that you do. So "beginner’s mind" is essentially a posture of humility towards what it is that you are trying to master--to accept that you are ignorant, essentially--and you are a student who is striving towards a state of lessened ignorance—rather than toward a state of mastery. Without a beginner’s mind you can’t master anything."......William Cumpiano
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26-Nov-2006
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Here is the problem: Trying to convince many beginners that they are just that; beginners. From time to time we entertain those individuals that come to this site with knowledge from some other discipline. Thinking that because they know this, that, or something else, their knowledge makes them particularly suited to mastering bonsai to a point that exceeds the efforts of those who have been in the art for many years. Instead of accepting advise from experience they argue with what they have been told. Instead of listening they pontificate their point of view even though they do not have a single tree that could possibly be called a bonsai; even from the Mallsai point of view.
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26-Nov-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Aug-2005
Location: Campbell south bay area
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some people cultivate attention...others trees...
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26-Nov-2006
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Sometimes that is as hard as convincing some of the old guys that they really don't know the subject either |
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26-Nov-2006
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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That's true, but with the Old Guys you can challenge them to put up or shut up.
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26-Nov-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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It is perhaps even more beneficial for the experienced to keep that beginner's mind..."In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's mind there are few."
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A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944) Interplast Sivananda Center |
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26-Nov-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Aug-2005
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I've seen at least as many humble people piss away their talent as egotists...I guess I lean towards egotism because few people seem highly competent without bringing on the "attitude" when its neccessary.
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27-Nov-2006
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Student of Life
 
Join Date: Mar-2006
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Can we discuss this without adding language!
Please remember this is a "Family Forum". Irene (MOM)
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27-Nov-2006
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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The ideas that are few are really the fruit of personal arrogance through the years of out-lasting the competition. It is the same arrogance that hinders the educated beginner who refuses to learn, and is reluctant to believe, that someone may have an idea better, or different, than those things they have already secreted away in their bloated opinion of themselves. Having achieved a vaunted level of education many come to bonsai thinking that none will be able to teach them much of anything of value because they already know everything there is to know about trees and plants. Sadly, many experienced growers adopt the same mind set in thinking because they have been doing bonsai for so long that no one is able to teach them anything new or useful. The bottom line comes to the same conclusion: Those who think they know everything seldom learn anything. They bluster and pontificate but in the end they remain more ignorant than those who at first endeavoured to assist them.
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