Next Steps

Here is a link to an article at Kyosuke Gunn's mini-bonsai that is the logical next step in training persimmon cuttings

Kyosuke Gunn article


Learning More

There were also a series informative of articles in Bonsai Clubs International magazine.

1992 May-June Princess persimmon
1992 September-October Princess persimmon

You can order them online at the publisher:
http://www.bonsai-bci.com/backsale/backsale.html

Regards,

Matt

This is a very interesting thread. Thank you, TreeBay. I have grown a number of American Persimmons from seed. Diospyros virginiana, I think (I've misplaced my field guide). I guess you are working with Diospyros kaki, if I'm not mistaken. I got some negative comments on another site about the American species, but I an persisting. We have alot of them in the woods here and they look like pretty good material to me. The seedlings are growing very rapidly and look much like what you are working with. I hope they progress as well as yours are.

Fred

Hi Fred,

The Princess Persimmon is Diospyros rhombifolia, native to China, (not Diospyros kaki - Japanese Persimmon) Japanese Persimmon has larger fruit and MUCH larger leaves. "Kaki" is the general word for persimmon in Japanese. Princess Persimmon is called Rouya-gaki. You can see more links here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...-8&q=Rouya-gaki

This one has pictures of the fruit and leaves - almost actual size if you have a large monitor.

http://natural-tree.com/homepage/it...yagaki-mesu.htm


I also have had a couple of chocolate persimmons - http://www.davewilson.com/br40/br40Persimmons.html but I haven't had any fruit since cutting it back for bonsai training.

Regards,

Matt

Hey cool!

I have 1 male and 1 female princess persimmon I got this may @ Maruyama. They have quite a few and they are fruit-bearing size. The Wife there said the females can make fruit by themselves, but the fruit fall off before they turn red. So i was like...hmmm Ill take a male too

my persimmons are still in 4 in. pots so Ill wait before i take any cuttings.

Persimmons are so much fun

Kazuki

Hi matt,
i have a question about your root cuttings. Since you took them from a mature plant, does that mean that the cuttings are ready to produce fruit the next season? Or do you have to wait a couple of years?

That wheelbarrow full of cuttings still weren't quite mature. The plants take about 5-7 years to come to fruiting from seed in my experience. The appearance of thorns on the Princess Persimmon is a sign that the plant is reaching maturity.

Persimmon fruit is borne on the current season's branch growth
http://www.extento.hawaii.edu/kbase...ps/i_persim.htm

However, I usually don't get fruit for a couple of years after heavy pruning on established trees, or from cuttings.

Regards,

Matt

i see.... thank you matt the one i have ( i have no idea how old it is) is in a 4 inch pot, and its about 1/4" thick.. it had 2 fruits when i bought it, but one fell off, and the other is still on..

that first pic you posted of the persimmon with one fruit is one of my favorite bonsai pictures that i thought i'd never be able to find again. thank you

We had that persimmon photo up for Fall-winter 2002 at the TreeBay.com site. It's a favorite of mine as well.

Regards,

Matt

Matt, so how are your persimmon cuttings doing? any fruit this year?

heres a princess persimmon i bought at maruyama's this past weekend.. my female died last year, and my male never bloomed, so this is my replacement... hopefully both the male and female will bloom next year!

i counted 11 fruit! im so happy.. if im lucky i might find seeds when the fruit ripens.

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