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Old 1-Nov-2006   #1
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Hundred Forty Year Old Mountain Pine

HI THIS IS CHEF I HAVE A HUNDRED FORTY YEAR OLD PINE IAM EAITER WANTING TO SELL OR TRADE FOR A TRIDENT OR ANY THING THAT IS BAD ASS..THIS TREE WAS COLLECTED AND OWNED BY A PINE MASTER FOR THE LAST TWENTY TWO YEARS CONTACT ME AT .....SHANNONKEYS@SBCGLOBAL.NET
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I'd love to see a 140 pine that has been in the care of a master for several decades. Do you have any photos?
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Old 1-Nov-2006   #3
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Wasn't this posted recently?
I remember seeing the ad somwhere else
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to me this is a just a bunch of bs...if you have a pine that old why would you try to sell it on ebay. who is going to buy it? the average person who knows nothing about bonsai wont fork out that kind of money for a tree, and the educated bonsai person would never buy a tree unless they saw it first, and never off of ebay.

I have bought trees off of ebay but they were just seedlings not specimin type trees.

Thats all i gotta say about that.
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Thanks for shouting it out DAVE I am deaf and wear hearing aids so I cannot afford to buy it and I do not own a trident.
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Legato, there are some very nice trees sold on eBay from time to time, for a lot of money. I saw a JBP sell for nearly $8000 last month. One of the more well-known pine guys in the country was bidding on it. He came in second.
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I agree that Ebay may not be the best place to buy (or sell) Bonsai. That said, there are many who disagree. Like ANYTHING if you know what you are doing, know the market, and most importantly know the seller, you can do very well on Ebay. I know of individuals who have bought or sold ... cars...property... Bonsai... Antiques.. etc.

For the most part, if it appears to good to be true... IT IS. Do not be fooled by what appears to be a tree going for far less than its worth. Think about it. There are millions... yes millions of people on Ebay looking at auctions. There are many individuals looking at the same tree you are. If you are the only one bidding it is for a reason.

Am I an expert on Ebay? Probably more so than an expert on Bonsai.

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Any seller that pushes the age of the tree for sale as a primary selling point might not be the best source of material...Age is about fifth on the list of things to consider in buying a specimen tree...It impresses only those who haven't bought many bonsai.

Not saying age isn't a good thing, only that it's a relative thing--and doesn't really make much difference, unless the material is profoundly old--like over 300 years or so.
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I agree, age isn't a great factor in considering specimen bonsai. The artistic merit of the tree and it's pedigree would be of more interest to me. I am curious as to who this great pine master is. That said specimen bonsai are bought and sold on ebay all the time. Mostly the sellers are already known by reputation, and the transaction presents little risk.

There is not a lot I like about this particular tree. I doubt it is the age and collected as the seller claims. The trunk just doesn't seem to have movement that is consistent with yamadori pine material. It appears to be an artifcially created corkscrew shape. More likely wired that way at a young age. It reminds me of those chinese elms mass produced on the chinese mainland.

What is a "contorted mountain pine" anyway? If I were a buyer I would want to know what species it is.
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