bonsaiTALK Home Page  

Go Back   bonsaiTALK Community > Classifieds - Wanted & For Sale > Auction Café
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Forum Gallery Weather Journals Links Webring Wiki NEW:Shop
Articles Opinion T.O.D. NEW:Radio Contests Humor NEW: Auctions! Donate


How to ship trees?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
bonsaiTALK Hint: Did you know you can double click any bonsai term on this page for its definition?
Old 31-Jan-2005   #1
Ralph
BonsaiTalk Master B.S.er
Ralph's a bonsaiTALK supporter! Click Here to find out how you can be one too!
 
Ralph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Richardson, Texas
Country: God Bless America
Posts: 1,285
Click Here to Skype Ralph
How to ship trees?

I did a little search here, and on the net in general, but this is a broad topic, and have not found the information I am looking for.
I am asking does anyone here have experience with sucessfully sending trees through the mail. What does one use for packing to protect branches and trunk?
What sucessful methods have you used to send trees bare root? How do you pack the bare roots? I would appreciate and experiences that you have.
Thanks
__________________
Emerging from winter slumber
Bonsai trees burst buds anew
Spring is upon us!


-Paul S.
Ralph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsor Message How to ship trees?
Advertisement
Forum Sponsor
Old 31-Jan-2005   #2
bonsaimaniac
bonsaiTALK Expert
 
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Portland, OR
Country: USA
Posts: 168
I haven't shipped any trees but have received a number of them. I can tell you from the receiving end what works and doesn't. Bare root is the cheapest way to ship a tree obiviously. Reducing the weight for shipping is always good. The problems I've had with this is that in reducing the size of the rootball the roots were damaged and the fine feeder roots stripped. Take your time and error on leaving a little extra soil. The best wrapping of the rootball was wrapped in wet fabric much like a torn sheet and then wrapped in saran wrap. It was cross country and got here by ground that took over five days! It was in good shape.

Protecting the branches is a real problem. I think that all of the trees have had damage. the problem is perventing the tree from shifting in the box. Very hard to do. Adding a 'this end up' sticker doesn't mean it will always be kept that way. Wiring it to the box may be a good way to go.

Good Luck
bonsaimaniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jan-2005   #3
jzak
Bonsai Nursery Owner
 
Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Virginia
Country: USA
Posts: 35
I tend to start with an oversized box to give myself at least 2-4 inches of room all around the box. i then thoroughly water the tree and use a nonstick plastic wrap of about 2-3" to wrap the pot,leaving a bit of space around the trunk. this will keep the tree and pot together. i then wrap that in plastic bubbles.

the box itsef is lined with additional layers of bubbles followed by styrofoam peanuts at the bottom of the box. the tree then is fitted into the box. depending on the branching structure, i may wrap a nonstick plastic piece and pull the branches inward, like an upright broom. the surrounding space is thoroughly packed with peanuts to the hilt. if the branching is extra delicate, i will use a solid piece of styrofoam on the very top before sealing the box. i use only extra-strength scotch tape and seal every open lining double. the box is then marked 'GLASS' on all sides.

i have never been happy with UPS and will never use them again. fedex ground or usps priority i've had very good results with.

i prefer not to ship bareroot,mostly because many receivers are more often than not , not prepared with the correct soils, pottery or even knowledge to deal with repotting.

this may sound like a very expensive process, but the largest cost is for the cardboard box and the solid styrofoam. i purchase 250 ft rolls of the bubbles at somewhere around $.30/ft cost. peanuts aren't that expensive as i reuse what's shipped to me.

hope this helps.

John Hollo
The Bonsai Trading Company and Nursery
jzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jan-2005   #4
Ralph
BonsaiTalk Master B.S.er
Ralph's a bonsaiTALK supporter! Click Here to find out how you can be one too!
 
Ralph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Richardson, Texas
Country: God Bless America
Posts: 1,285
Click Here to Skype Ralph
Thanks guys for your very detailed accounts. I appreciate it.
__________________
Emerging from winter slumber
Bonsai trees burst buds anew
Spring is upon us!


-Paul S.
Ralph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jan-2005   #5
jzak
Bonsai Nursery Owner
 
Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Virginia
Country: USA
Posts: 35
having been raised much of my life in and around White Rock Lake, it's the very least i could do for someone from garland. cheers john
jzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jan-2005   #6
bonsaibiker
bonsaiTALK Journeyman
 
Join Date: Oct-2004
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 5b-6a
Posts: 14
In addition to all of the advice in the earlier posts you may want to do this also. When shipping a tree in a pot or container that has a lot of weight to it I have found that securing the pot to the bottom of the box it is setting in helps it survive even if it gets turned upside down. Place the tree in the box and poke holes through the bottom of the box on each side of the pot, run wire or string through the holes and up around the pot and tie them. Make sure to use a heavy box or the wire could rip out of the cardboard. Then add the styrafoam peanuts etc. This way if it gets turned upside down or dropped the weight of the roots/pot won't break off the top of the tree.
bonsaibiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1-Feb-2005   #7
pdbbonsai
Paul Berish
pdbbonsai's a bonsaiTALK supporter! Click Here to find out how you can be one too!
 
pdbbonsai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: north shore of Lake Superior
Country: Minnesota
Posts: 1,197
Reiner Goebel over on IBC had a detailed thread with pics about a year ago. You may wish to email him for the specifics...I found his method to be something I would try when and if I ever decide to ship something.

Paul
__________________
It is essential to experience all the times and moods of one good place. (Thomas Merton)

BonsaiTalk is one good place. (me)
pdbbonsai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1-Feb-2005   #8
rockm
bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
 
Join Date: Oct-2003
Location: Fairfax, Va
Country: USA
Posts: 4,561
Jzak's method is prety much how I've shipped stock, except I ship larger collected stuff bareroot. The rootball is packed in damp long fibered sphagnum moss and wrapped relatively tightly (but not too tightly) in garbage bags, then placed in a nursery container, packed with wet newspaper which packed tightly and the whole top of the container is taped over to prevent the rooball from coming out. The container provides protection from crushing in transit. The entire trunk is wrapped in bubble wrap. The plant is set into the box on top of initiqal layer of plastic peanuts. The remaining voids are filled with plastic peanuts.

I haven't shipped any well branched trees, so this method works well for since I do'nt have to worry too much about snapping branches off.

I ship overnight or 3 day express. I never ship in the winter.

Don't know how large the plants are you're shipping, but I've gotten 3-4 foot, 75-100 lb trees shipped to me through UPS and air freight. The shipper packed those trees in large appliance boxes, with custom-built plywood bases that the pot was wired to. The whole thing was set into the box. He also engineered side ties that were threaded around the trunk to the walls of the box to stabilize side to side movement of the tree. He would only ship 24 hour airfreight.
rockm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Minimal Bonsai FredL General 87 3-Dec-2005 05:09 PM
Because Al asked Ron Martin Show & Tell 45 14-Oct-2004 08:57 PM
Growing Trees (cuttings/seeds) And Korean Species Daniel Propagation 2 17-Aug-2003 04:03 PM
While waiting for trees to grow... oldmistercrow Tips & Misc 15 19-Aug-2002 12:04 PM
How can I pack and ship bonsai? TreeBay bonsaiTALK FAQ 0 3-Feb-2002 03:29 PM


All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin v3.6.5
Copyright ©2000-2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8