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11-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Jan-2006
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Spikes
Well, so is there a great objection to using Miracle Grow Spike for food?
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12-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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I haven't used them myself, but I have heard that your answer is yes. They will dump fert. every time you water, which with good bonsai soil, for most is every day. A once every couple of week fert schedule isn't that bad to keep up with, use a regular balanced fert. , that you decide when to put it on.
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12-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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Depends on what spike "food" you're using. The spikes for houseplants should be fine. The spikes for landscape trees probably aren't
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12-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK Adept
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Rock - Why do you say this I have thought, though I have never done, that the tree spikes (Jobes or whatever) crushed into smaller sizes might actually be a possibility. I haven't done it as I think it would be too high of a concentration of an inorganic (obviously dependent on how much and how often it is used), even with a free draining soil. So, can you explain your comment further?
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13-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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"Why do you say this I have thought, though I have never done, that the tree spikes (Jobes or whatever) crushed into smaller sizes might actually be a possibility."
Why on earth would you think that? Crushing them up would intensify the concentration in the soil--more surface area exposed means more fertilizer would be released... In-ground tree spikes are concentrated for use IN GROUND over a pretty large area. Placing those spikes into a container concentrates a dose that may be intended for a few square meters into a fraction of that...Not saying it would kill anything, but such a practice would probably have some consequences. Those would be needless consequences, since tree spikes are really a kind of silly alternative to regular old fertilizer--which gives more control over dosage and is cheaper... |
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13-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Jan-2006
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Im using the house plant one.
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14-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK Adept
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That's why I said this: I haven't done it as I think it would be too high of a concentration of an inorganic. I haven't done it for exactly the reason you say. My original thought would be to replace an organic ball such as bio gold or fertilizer balls - i.e. a larger size than the granules that are gone after a week - which I cannot use because of squirrels, skunks, racoons and yellow labs, which eat anything orgnic left on top of the soil. So, just trying to think of possible alternatives - which I have found to much satisfaction.
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17-Jul-2006
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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Fertilier spikes aren't "organic." They are "chemical." Using too many "organic" pellets will cause the same kind of damage as "chemical" fertilizers. It just takes a larger amount of them to do it. Bio Gold instructions warn against using too many...Squirrels and other varmints will generally not bother Bio Gold, or some of the other "name" prepared organic pellets, as they contain stinky insecticides and more refined organic material. They don't smell as promising as the "home brewed" cakes that people make, that contain raw blood meal, bone meal and other yummy stuff. I have gaggles of squirrels and dozens of racoons in my neighborhood that routinely turn over the garbeage can that's abotu 10 feet from the trees. They have yet to go after Bio Gold pellets, but they do love the bone meal based home-made pellets...
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