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Old 26-Sep-2007   #1
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Huh? Soil at bonsaioutlet.com

Hello Fellow Tree-Huggers,

I've been involved (hands on) in the art of bonsai for about 2 years. My first success is about a 7 year old Chinese Elm that I bought from Brussel's Bonsai company. It's time for me to repot and I've been looking for a cheap quality bonsai soil to buy over the net. Here is a site that I was impressed with and was wondering what your opinions are about it. Is it a good deal for price? Is the company trustworthy? Are there better deals out there?

http://www.bonsaioutlet.com/proddet...prod=cdecidsoil

I also own a young orange tree, and several cuttings from my Chinese Elm, and a Chinese Elm from my grandmothers yard.

Thanks a bunch
Justin

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Old 26-Sep-2007   #2
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That looks awfully expensive to me... there are several good recipes floating around on this site for making your own. I would think you could make a wash tub full for that price. My late bonsai teacher used to make and sell the soil and he charged $15.00 for a 5 gallon bucket sized portion....and made a profit at it. I don't believe you need a special formula for deciduous trees.... A good bonsai soil is just that. It is a well draining soil with very little (if any) organic material. If you check out this site you will find recipes that you can make yourself.
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Old 26-Sep-2007   #3
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I suggest http://www.dallasbonsai.com/store/p...dium_index.htmlits a little more expensive but its much more reliable. And also try my site. http://thebonsaischool.zoomshare.com/3.html Also try another google search to find better prices if youd like.

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Old 27-Sep-2007   #4
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Thanks To All -

If I had the available sources (locally) I would make my own batch of bonsai soil; so I must resort to a pre-mixed soil cheap and excellent quality.

I have a Wal-Mart, a Sutherlands, and two Farm & Home supply stores in my small town. I doubt they will carry the exact ingredients.

Thank you for the links. I will check them out... Sounds like I need to do more research and ask more questions.

What's your favorite recipes?
I appreciate the help ---thanks again.

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Old 27-Sep-2007   #5
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Justin the reason it's up in price is that it is a small pkg., and typically you pay more for "individual" sizes. N E Bonsai's soil is good as bonsai soil goes, I would get a bucket size if you can, you will be surprised at how fast you use it up, and it will be cheaper # for #. Also check Tachigi's site, he also sells a good mix.
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Old 27-Sep-2007   #6
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if its from new england bonsai, just go to their website and get it from them directly. i think is about $4.50 at their site for the same bag.

its what i use, because a nursery near me carries it and i only have a few trees.

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I suggest http://www.dallasbonsai.com/store/p...dium_index.htmlits a little more expensive but its much more reliable. And also try my site. http://thebonsaischool.zoomshare.com/3.html Also try another google search to find better prices if youd like.

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Mike,
Just reading the first paragraph on the home page leads me to believe that the information at thebonsaischool is untrustworthy.

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Hello and welcome; My name is Michael Salas I was one day reaserching on the internet and found most the information was just down wrong. So I thought of a way to help beginners to get some concrete information. So I made the site. After training a while with roy nagatoshi a bonsai master in sylmar california I started the site. The info on the site is absolutely free . But I must warn you beginners like you are very tempted to start fast. Plese read all the site and I assure you. Youll thrive with my site. If youve already started just take a look at what you know and what I know and make sure you have everything straight. If you have any question email me at thebonsaischool@zoomshare.com

All grammar and spelling mistakes are straight from the page. I'd be careful about quoting them.
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Thanks Bill for the plug

Justin, the mix I sell is more expensive at first glance. There is a reason for that. Its got more in it than turface, sand, and bark. Its comprised of Akadama, lava rock, grani grit, New Zealand white sphagnum, turface, and a variety of micro nutrients. All ratio'd from Colin Lewis's Recipes. You also get a 9 pound bag verses a 2 pound cited in your link. So your actually getting more for less. The mix is dynamite anyone that has used it has raved about it. There are three mixes Conifer, Deciduous, and a special mix for pines. Here is a pretty good article Colin wrote about soils.

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Justin,

If you haven't done a search on this site yet, you might start here:

http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/f8/what...cipe-23229.html

There are many other threads discussing soil mixes, using a wide variety of commonly found components.

I'm not trying to dissuade you from buying premixed soil, but with a Walmart and farm supply stores nearby, you probably can find soil components that will work well for you.

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Justin, the mix I sell is more expensive at first glance. There is a reason for that. Its got more in it than turface, sand, and bark. Its comprised of Akadama, lava rock, grani grit, New Zealand white sphagnum, turface, and a variety of micro nutrients. All ratio'd from Colin Lewis's Recipes. You also get a 9 pound bag verses a 2 pound cited in your link. So your actually getting more for less. The mix is dynamite anyone that has used it has raved about it. There are three mixes Conifer, Deciduous, and a special mix for pines. Here is a pretty good article Colin wrote about soils.

Good luck in the soil hunt
tom, i wish you have a special mix for tropicals too. im repoting next spring and maybe you can hook me up with one.

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