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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

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Old 25-Aug-2004   #1
Marty Haber
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

If CT stands for Connecticut, you're quite safe. Just place it in the
ground away from the wind and sun.
Marty
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> Is it safe to leave a small Japanese Maple outside in the winter? It's
> a new tree grown from a seedling this past spring/summer and I'm
> hesitant to leave it out all winter. I live on the CT coast. Any advice?
>
> Sunshyn
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Old 25-Aug-2004   #2
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

I don't normally reply yo invalid e mails but:

1. If it is a young seedling with tender top and root growth, I would
let it freeze the first year.

2. If you live too close to any coast, the Japanese Maple will not
like the salt air.

In a message dated 8/24/2004 8:27:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
user@DOMAIN.INVALID writes:

> Is it safe to leave a small Japanese Maple outside in the winter? It's
> a new tree grown from a seedling this past spring/summer and I'm
> hesitant to leave it out all winter. I live on the CT coast. Any advice?
>
> Sunshyn



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Old 26-Aug-2004   #3
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

It is clearly species specific. There are certainly zone 5 Japanese Maples.
If you know the species, find out what its hardiness is. in southern Vermont
on lake Champlain the are examples that thrive. Rodger Kessler

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Is it safe to leave a small Japanese Maple outside in the winter? It's
a new tree grown from a seedling this past spring/summer and I'm
hesitant to leave it out all winter. I live on the CT coast. Any advice?

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Old 26-Aug-2004   #4
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

On 26 Aug 2004 at 8:47, Rodger Kessler wrote:

> Is it safe to leave a small Japanese Maple outside in the winter? It's
> a new tree grown from a seedling this past spring/summer and I'm
> hesitant to leave it out all winter. I live on the CT coast. Any advice?
>
> It is clearly species specific. There are certainly zone 5
>Japanese Maples. If you know the species, find out what its

hardiness is. in southern Vermont on lake Champlain the are
examples that thrive. Rodger Kessler
>
>

SLIGHT correction. Rodger is right in that some Japanese maples
are more cold-hardy than others, it's his terminology that's the
problem.

"Japanese maples" are a single "species" -- Acer palmatum. The
cold-hardiness variation comes at the "cultivar" level, as in
Acer palmatum 'Kiyohime' or A. p. 'Crimson Queen'.

I can't advise as to which are or are not cold hardy. Maybe
your local library has Vertrees' tome on Japanese maples, or you
could look at www.mountainmaples.com and see if your tree is
listed and if they mention its cold tolerance.

Down where _I_ live, we worry about HEAT tolerance.

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SEEN ONE REDWOOD TREE, YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALL."
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Old 26-Aug-2004   #5
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

In a message dated 8/26/2004 9:03:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jklewis@NETTALLY.COM writes:

I can't advise as to which are or are not cold hardy


i sell a.palmatum at conventions. i have gotten back reports from many
repeat offenders. a.p. are very sensitive to wind and to salt, and alkaline
conditions.
i have clients who grow them in buffalo, boston, madison, wi. milwaukee,
southern michigan, maine.
microclimates play an important part.
with your seedling, if it's in a container, protect it, new roots freeze.
all of my grafting buddies in nj protect the new roots for the 1st winter.
i have thousands of seedlings every year here at my place. we mow them.
not many come back the 2nd year.
harry



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Old 26-Aug-2004   #6
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

I collect Japanese Maples. They are mostly Grafts. and are wintered in a
greenhouse. My worst time of the year with maples is the spring, at the point
they are brought outside . There is often leaf damage caused by the wind. I try
to take plants out around mother's day. I couldn't leave in the greenhouse
any longer. I also place trees in the yard according to their sensitivity to
strong sun. I try to protect certain Dissectums and variegated varieties . I
have approximately 40- 50 varieties. Mostly Acer Palmatums and Japonicas
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Old 26-Aug-2004   #7
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

Jim Lewis wrote:
> On 26 Aug 2004 at 8:47, Rodger Kessler wrote:
>
>
>>Is it safe to leave a small Japanese Maple outside in the winter? It's
>>a new tree grown from a seedling this past spring/summer and I'm
>>hesitant to leave it out all winter. I live on the CT coast. Any advice?
>>
>>It is clearly species specific. There are certainly zone 5
>>Japanese Maples. If you know the species, find out what its

>
> hardiness is. in southern Vermont on lake Champlain the are
> examples that thrive. Rodger Kessler
>
>>

> SLIGHT correction. Rodger is right in that some Japanese maples
> are more cold-hardy than others, it's his terminology that's the
> problem.
>
> "Japanese maples" are a single "species" -- Acer palmatum. The
> cold-hardiness variation comes at the "cultivar" level, as in
> Acer palmatum 'Kiyohime' or A. p. 'Crimson Queen'.
>
> I can't advise as to which are or are not cold hardy. Maybe
> your local library has Vertrees' tome on Japanese maples, or you
> could look at www.mountainmaples.com and see if your tree is
> listed and if they mention its cold tolerance.
>
> Down where _I_ live, we worry about HEAT tolerance.
>
> Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - "IF YOU'VE
> SEEN ONE REDWOOD TREE, YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALL."
> - Forestry expert, Ronald Reagan
>
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The seedling is native to this area (I got it from below a matured
tree.) I guess to be more specific, I was concerned about the seedling
getting worse frost damage from being in a pot rather than the ground.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Sunshyn
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Old 26-Aug-2004   #8
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Re: [IBC] Japanese Maple in the northeast

Acer Palmatum is the more familiar "japanese" Maples. However Acer japonica are also japanese Maples

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