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Old 5-Jun-2004   #1
Wolfram Kretzschmar
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Tree Trunk Question

Hi everybody,

as i'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new
seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I
wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving.

Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that
correct...

Bye
Wolle


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Old 5-Jun-2004   #2
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Re: [IBC] Tree Trunk Question

> Hi everybody,
>
> as i'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have

a new
> seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese

elm kind. Now I
> wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving.
>
> Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't

that
> correct...
>
> Bye


Maybe one of our German speakers can help, so try a question in
German.

Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests
are like genealogists: We know our roots!

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Old 5-Jun-2004   #3
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Re: [IBC] Tree Trunk Question

Wolle: I am not familiar with the terms you are using, "continuous or
dissolving." However, the natural growing habit of the Chinese elm (and most
other elms) is what we call in bonsai the broom or besom style. That is an
upright trunk which then spreads into a multitude of upward spreading of
branches. This resembles an inverted broom, hence the term broom style. The
Japanese name for this style is hooki-zukuri. For directions on how to
create this style, consult John Naka's Bonsai Techniques I, pp. 137-139.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfram Kretzschmar

Hi everybody,
As I'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new
seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I
wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving.

Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that
correct...
Bye
Wolle

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Old 5-Jun-2004   #4
Julie Trigg
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Re: Tree Trunk Question

Was in a workshop this past week-end at the Fl State Convention and
according to David DeGroot, I think the Chinese Elm would be dissolving.
Julie Trigg





in article 2idtutFld5avU1@uni-berlin.de, Wolfram Kretzschmar at
onkel_wolle@gmx.net wrote on 6/5/04 8:23 AM:

> Hi everybody,
>
> as i'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new
> seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I
> wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving.
>
> Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that
> correct...
>
> Bye
> Wolle
>
>


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Old 6-Jun-2004   #5
Billy M. Rhodes
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Re: [IBC] Tree Trunk Question

In a message dated 6/5/2004 7:55:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
julie.trigg@VERIZON.NET writes:

> Was in a workshop this past week-end at the Fl State Convention and
> according to David DeGroot, I think the Chinese Elm would be dissolving.
> Julie Trigg


I still don't know what "dissolving" means in this context.

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Old 6-Jun-2004   #6
Iris Cohen
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Re: Tree Trunk Question

<< Now I wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving. >>

Sorry, I don't understand you. The trunk of any tree is permanent. It grows by
adding another layer of wood every year. The bark however, is usually not
permanent. The tree sheds it a little at a time. Is this what you meant?
Iris,
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Old 6-Jun-2004   #7
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Re: [IBC] Tree Trunk Question

In a message dated 6/5/04 6:55:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, iriscohen@AOL.COM
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> Sorry, I don't understand you


I think what he means is ... Should the trunk go in a continuous line to the
apex or should the main trunk split into branching (ramification) as in a
broom style?

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Old 6-Jun-2004   #8
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Re: Tree Trunk Question

Hi all,

> Hi, aint to sure about trunk being continuous
> or dissolving. can you give me more info? maybe
> just try and explain simply what you mean


I wanted to ask, whether the trunk grows continuously upwards (devellops
arm/branch that grows straight upwards), when cut the first time, or whether
it doesn't grow anymore, but devellops branches/arms that grow sidewards...

I found these two descriptions of cutting a new bonsai the first time. One
describes the method for those trees, that have this continuous trunk, while
the other one describes the method for those that whose trunk dissolves...

Bye
Wolle


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Old 6-Jun-2004   #9
Michael Persiano
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Re: [IBC] Tree Trunk Question

In a message dated 6/5/2004 7:16:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
awbonsai@BELLSOUTH.NET writes:
Hi everybody,
As I'm from Germany I will get directly to the problem. I have a new
seedling (I think you know what I mean), which is of chinese elm kind. Now I
wanted to know, whether the trunk is continuous or dissolving.

Excuse me if my English, as it's a very special problem, isn't that
correct...
Bye
Wolle
Wolle:

Haben sie eine photographie des baumes?

Vielen Dank,

Michael Persiano
http://members.aol.com/iasnob

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Old 6-Jun-2004   #10
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Re: [IBC] Tree Trunk Question

In a message dated 6/6/2004 2:55:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
onkel_wolle@GMX.NET writes:

> I wanted to ask, whether the trunk grows continuously upwards (develops
> arm/branch that grows straight upwards),


Elms do this very well.

Billy on the Florida Space Coast
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