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13-May-2004
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Re: [IBC] Sageretia Help (Possibly dead already)1
Khaimraj ,
Thanks for the great information. My smaller trees and cuttings grow very vigorously as well. Jerry Meislik Whitefish Montana USA Zone 4-5 http://www.bonsaihunk.8m.com/ > Good Day to All, > Jerry, > > from what I can tell.The Sageretias from South China, > need at least three years to recuperate. > There is very little cambium to store energy or other and > though the shrub when happy is like a firework going off > with shoots,the imported trees are very weak. > > I had a 36 year old specimen fade to grey over two years, > yet all the cuttings are aggressive in growth. > I suspect it was because I didn't realise that the tree only > had three live roots despite of the masses of fine rootlets the > bush had thrown out. > > This is one of those import "cutting" that look good for x months > and then anything can kill them off. > > The cuttings I took are now about 1"+ in size after 10 years or > so and extremely vigorous.Some have thrown seed into my > lawn below and they are on their way to becoming shrubs. > A very happy accident. > > This is the one shrub that I would suggest anyone purchasing > to just grow on for at least 3 years before doing anything and > starting with smaller specimens,rather than the big ones. > No pruning,just allow longer than 3' extensions and as many > as is possible.Wreck the shapes if you have too. > > Lastly beware of larger than 1/2" wounds,they seldom heal, > rot easily and should really just be sealed. > Until later. > Stay Well. > Khaimraj > West Indies/Caribbean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Meislik <bonsaihunk@HOTMAIL.COM> > To: BONSAI@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM <BONSAI@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM> > Date: 22 April 2004 16:34 > Subject: Re: [IBC] Sageretia Help (Possibly dead already) > > >> Dunk, >> I can not be sure about your tree. But I can relate that I have had several >> Sageretia trees over the years with large dead-wood areas. These were trees >> that were imported as larger plants that were cut back. Despite my best >> efforts they died a prolonged death with the lower branches dieing off and >> the die off moving up to the top. >> I could never figure out why, but my best guess is an internal fungal >> disease. If you get no better suggestions, use a systemic fungicide on the >> tree and repeat it at suggested intervals. >> Keep your fingers crossed. >> Jerry Meislik >> Whitefish Montana USA >> Zone 4-5 >> http://www.bonsaihunk.8m.com/ > > > ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** >>-->> The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ <<--<< +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail BONSAI-REQUEST@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM +++++ |
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Re: [IBC] Sageretia Help (Possibly dead already)1
Thanks to all who replied, I took it back out of the pot and found the roots all black and fairly brittle. I guess my Bonsai is dead  With hindsight, when I repotted it last I think there was only really one healthy looking main root. I should have looked for better help then, cut back the dead root, watered with rooting compound / put some sand in soil to encourage roots. Thanks again, any suggestions for an easy to look after replacement? Should I try the Sageretia again? Something that blossums in the UK would be good. Cheers, Duncan -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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13-May-2004
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Re: [IBC] Sageretia Help (Possibly dead already)1
Duncan,
Please use a real email address :-( This list is (99.9  spam free. It'stedious having to retype emails because the personal reply one sends is bounced as undeliverable. Most of the time I would just give up at that point, but as you're in the UK ;-) If you are after an indoor bonsai that flowers reliably, why not try any of the Dwarf Fuchsia varieties? They are relatively easy and flower for a long season. Whereabouts in the UK? Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club [mailto:BONSAI@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Dunk - del SAFETYNET to reply Sent: 04 May 2004 10:41 To: BONSAI@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM Subject: Re: [IBC] Sageretia Help (Possibly dead already)1 Thanks to all who replied, I took it back out of the pot and found the roots all black and fairly brittle. I guess my Bonsai is dead With hindsight, when I repotted it last I think there was only really one healthy looking main root. I should have looked for better help then, cut back the dead root, watered with rooting compound / put some sand in soil to encourage roots. Thanks again, any suggestions for an easy to look after replacement? Should I try the Sageretia again? Something that blossums in the UK would be good. Cheers, Duncan -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ************************************************** ********************** ******** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ********************** ******** >>-->> The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ <<--<< +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail BONSAI-REQUEST@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM +++++ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.674 / Virus Database: 436 - Release Date: 02/05/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.674 / Virus Database: 436 - Release Date: 02/05/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** >>-->> The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ <<--<< +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail BONSAI-REQUEST@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM +++++ |
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