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Old 18-Jun-2004   #1
Keith
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new bonsai site

From time to time I like to search the internet for new bonsai sites and
came across this one. http://www.crashbonsai.com/ . I know people have
thought of new and inventive ways of practicing bonsai, but I've never seen
anything like this in the world of bonsai.


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Old 19-Jun-2004   #2
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Re: [IBC] new bonsai site

This site isn't quite new, saw it about a year ago. Interesting stuff.

Nic

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>From time to time I like to search the internet for new bonsai sites
>and

came across this one. http://www.crashbonsai.com/ . I know people have
thought of new and inventive ways of practicing bonsai, but I've never seen
anything like this in the world of bonsai.

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #3
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Re: new bonsai site

<< From time to time I like to search the internet for new bonsai sites and
came across this one. http://www.crashbonsai.com/ . >>

Let's see: dead bodies who have fallen out of trees, lynchings, jogger attacked
in park, animal caught in trap, trees mutilated by various causes. Art has long
been used to express the dark side of human nature, but I would hope they would
leave bonsai alone. I don't mind a little irony, but I prefer my bonsai upbeat.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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Old 19-Jun-2004   #4
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Re: [IBC] new bonsai site

> I don't mind a little irony, but I prefer my bonsai upbeat.
>
> Iris,


Or at least calmly contemplative. I think the site sucks (to use
my 13-year-old grandson's oh-so-eloquent phrasing).

Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - This economy is a wholly owned
subsidiary of the environment. - Gaylord Nelson

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #5
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Re: [IBC] new bonsai site

> From time to time I like to search the internet for new bonsai sites and
> came across this one. http://www.crashbonsai.com/ . I know people have
> thought of new and inventive ways of practicing bonsai, but I've never
> seen anything like this in the world of bonsai.
>


Funny thing...

Here in St. Louis at the convention, I didn't see one car crashed into a
tree. I'm not much of an old hand at this whole convention thing, but this
is a good one as far as I'm concerned. Met a few people whose work I've
only seen on the printed page and watched some transform what looks like
ordinary material into good stuff. Walked around some truly splendid trees
(and some not so splendid, but even a bad tree is pretty good). Spent way
too much for plants, pots and tools, but what the hell, therapy is worth
what you pay for it... <g>

Not much IBC presence here and I find that disappointing.

And, Muphy's Law being what it is, I've come down with a cold and feel
crummy. Won't stop me from watching demos though. I hear that buying more
pots will generally improve respiratory distress. I'm going to test that
theory later today. I figure it'll probablt take a half dozen pots, at
least. Take them with meals and call me in the morning...

Pastorio

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #6
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Re: [IBC] new bonsai site

Jim-

I totally agree with you- and your grandson- This site does definitely "suck"- and has anyone checked out the prices?! Oy!- and for something that looked like my grandsons were driving their matchbox or hot wheels cars through my trees!

Unreal what some people will do- and even more unreal what some people will buy!

Schatzi Sarceno- Schatzi_13@msn.com- SW Connecticut- zone 6ish- Where if you don't like the weather, just wait ten minutes- it WILL change

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> I don't mind a little irony, but I prefer my bonsai upbeat.
>
> Iris,


Or at least calmly contemplative. I think the site sucks (to use
my 13-year-old grandson's oh-so-eloquent phrasing).

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #7
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[IBC] Fw: [IBC] new bonsai site

> I don't mind a little irony, but I prefer my bonsai upbeat.
>
> Iris,


>> Or at least calmly contemplative. I think the site sucks (to use
>>my 13-year-old grandson's oh-so-eloquent phrasing).
>>
>> Jim Lewis


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Calmly contemplating

There is no reason to call it "bonsai" if the history and metaphor of
bonsai has been disconnected from its beginning. It needs a new title- one
that expresses the artist's intention. But - the artist may be making
money and having fun with it. That is as far as some goals are set. Makes
one appreciate and realize all the more those traditional more transcending
goals.
The site has been around for awhile; it does remind us of our
different
appreciation so it is worth something. Like Iris suggests - a little irony
is acceptable; this seems to teeter toward, "Buy me, I am a kick!"

Lynn
Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #8
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Re: [IBC] new bonsai site

> Not much IBC presence here and I find that disappointing.

Peter Aradi, Reiner Goebel, and Allan Walker (at least) should be
wandering around somewhere -- tho Allan's probably stuck in
meetings. Check the bar at 5 p.m.

There were a number who said they'd be there.

Hope you took/are taking lots of pictures.

Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #9
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Re: [IBC] Fw: [IBC] new bonsai site

I agree with everyone one that this site "sucks". I was not trying to raise
hostility, I just wanted to share with everyone the 'crap' that some people
make,buy, and call art.

Keith


"Lynn Boyd" <lynnkate@CHARTER.NET> wrote in message
news:000b01c4561d$00bf8bd0$623c7444@lk80y4tdlr2y6p ...
> > I don't mind a little irony, but I prefer my bonsai upbeat.
> >
> > Iris,

>
> >> Or at least calmly contemplative. I think the site sucks (to use
> >>my 13-year-old grandson's oh-so-eloquent phrasing).
> >>
> >> Jim Lewis

>
> ------------------------
>
> Calmly contemplating
>
> There is no reason to call it "bonsai" if the history and metaphor of
> bonsai has been disconnected from its beginning. It needs a new title-

one
> that expresses the artist's intention. But - the artist may be making
> money and having fun with it. That is as far as some goals are set.

Makes
> one appreciate and realize all the more those traditional more

transcending
> goals.
> The site has been around for awhile; it does remind us of our
> different
> appreciation so it is worth something. Like Iris suggests - a little

irony
> is acceptable; this seems to teeter toward, "Buy me, I am a kick!"
>
> Lynn
> Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA
>
>

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Old 19-Jun-2004   #10
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Re: [IBC] Fw: [IBC] new bonsai site

> I agree with everyone one that this site "sucks". I was not trying to
> raise hostility, I just wanted to share with everyone the 'crap' that
> some people make,buy, and call art.


Remember the web site with trees a few years ago that were put into
settings that were decidedly not traditional. I seem to recall one that
had barbed wire around it. And one in a stainless steel pot.

The general consensus, IIRC, was that they were interesting; they just
weren't bonsai.

Pastorio

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