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16-May-2004
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Juniper not looking so hot
I've had a young juniper for the past few months, and been watering it
almost daily. There's a few issues I've noticed, which may or may not be a problem. The juniper is getting sunlight daily (well, when there is sun) -- the sunlight is probably direct for about 3-4 hours a day at most. The juniper is pictured (badly) here, I'd say it's 20-25cm tall: http://members.optusnet.com.au/codswallop/juniper.jpg I've noticed that in some parts of the soil, there is some whitish ... stuff. Sort of like cobwebs. Pictured here: http://members.optusnet.com.au/cods...white_stuff.jpg Also, a lot of smallish plant things are appearing, I am removing them when I see them, however they're only visible when they're quite large since that's when the poke through the top pebbles: http://members.optusnet.com.au/cods...lant_things.jpg Lastly, I have noticed a few parts of some branches are turning brown (top-left of image): http://members.optusnet.com.au/codswallop/dead_bits.jpg Is there any easy way to tell if the plant has been over/under watered without removing it from the pot? I'd say I am probably putting around 400mL of water in per day which seems like a lot. The plant seems to suck it all up though. Maybe it's just greedy? The weather is cooling down here (14-20c or 55-70f) but junipers are not supposed to lose leaves... Is the plant dead or do you think I can save it? -- - Cods pbqf_at@ubgznvy.pbz (un ROT-13 to email) Welcome to KILLFILE, population: You. |
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Re: [IBC] Juniper not looking so hot
The menacing last line of your post seems like a warning not to go to your
site or open any files from you! I don't recommend that any other list members do this either. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org Last edited by TreeBay : 16-May-2004 at 11:08 PM. |
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17-May-2004
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Re: [IBC] Juniper not looking so hot
On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:11:47 GMT, Alan Walker wrote in rec.arts.bonsai:
> The menacing last line of your post seems like a warning not to go to > your site or open any files from you! I don't recommend that any other > list members do this either. Alan, I am a contributor in other, more "flame happy" groups. Pay the final line in the .sig no mind. I lost my first bonsai (a Cypress(sp?) and a Juniper) a couple of years back due to sunburn and this Juniper is my first venture back into the world of bonsai. I would be grateful for some assistance. -- - Cods pbqf_at@ubgznvy.pbz (un ROT-13 to email) Welcome to KILLFILE, population: You. |
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17-May-2004
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Re: [IBC] Juniper not looking so hot
It sounds like you are overwatering. Junipers like to almost dry out
below the surface between waterings. Check the archives for "Persiano pick" method, or "chopstick" for tips on how to do this effectively. If parts are already brown, it is probably dead. Sorry :-( Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 14/05/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** >>-->> The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ <<--<< +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail BONSAI-REQUEST@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM +++++ |
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17-May-2004
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Re: [IBC] Juniper not looking so hot
Older foliage on Junipers will sometimes turn brown however, this Juniper
doesn't look that old and appears to be very healthy. It is not turning that dull green/gray color that Junipers will turn when they are dying. This Juniper seems to be pretty dense which may be shading some of the foliage from the sun which will cause dye back on some of the foliage underneath. Are the rocks etc. glued in? If so you will probably need to remove all of that glued stuff and replace with some loose covering similar to what is on top of it now. If the pot has regular potting soil in it you may want to repot with a bonsai soil that is more porous. All of this will make watering easier. Also Kevins advice on watering is good plus it sounds like you may be overwatering the tree. Bill Watkins ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by John Quinn++++ ************************************************** ****************************** >>-->> The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ <<--<< +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail BONSAI-REQUEST@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM +++++ |
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17-May-2004
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Re: [IBC] Juniper not looking so hot
On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:17:02 GMT, kevin bailey wrote in rec.arts.bonsai:
> It sounds like you are overwatering. Junipers like to almost dry out > below the surface between waterings. Check the archives for "Persiano > pick" method, or "chopstick" for tips on how to do this effectively. Yeah, I'd tried the "chopstick" method (actually, just with a toothpick, which was probably a bit small) but since it's been getting colder it was a bit hard to determine whether the pick was wet or simply cold. > If parts are already brown, it is probably dead. Sorry :-( That's what I thought. The needles are slightly "prickly" but aren't too shiny; I've read that prickly and shiny needles on a juniper indicate it's stressed -- is this correct? -- - Cods pbqf_at@ubgznvy.pbz (un ROT-13 to email) Welcome to KILLFILE, population: You. |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:46:06 GMT, Bill Watkins wrote in rec.arts.bonsai:
> Older foliage on Junipers will sometimes turn brown however, this > Juniper doesn't look that old and appears to be very healthy. I was wondering whether that was the case -- is it common for old foliage to turn brown, become brittle and fall off? If so, should I try to remove as much of the dead foliage as possible or does it make no difference? > It is not turning that dull green/gray color that Junipers will turn > when they are dying. This Juniper seems to be pretty dense which may > be shading some of the foliage from the sun which will cause dye back > on some of the foliage underneath. I've noticed that it's quite dense. Since the tree is so young (not really sure how to tell it's age, though) I thought it best to let it grow however it wants until around Spring where I'll cut it back a bit. I was thinking about beginning wiring then but am still trying to determine whether the tree is too young. Is this an appropriate approach to take? > Are the rocks etc. glued in? If so you will probably need to remove > all of that glued stuff and replace with some loose covering similar > to what is on top of it now. No, the rocks aren't glued in. To be honest, I've not found any store in Australia that sells glued rocks. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places.  This tree was purchased from a bonsai-only nursery, and not in a shopping centre. > If the pot has regular potting soil in it you may want to repot with a > bonsai soil that is more porous. All of this will make watering > easier. Also Kevins advice on watering is good plus it sounds like you > may be overwatering the tree. How can I tell whether the soil is "regular" soil or "bonsai" soil? Also, we're just going into winter, should I repot now or wait 'til Spring? I think I shall most definitely cut down on the tree's watering; it wasn't watered this morning but it's been raining all night! Thanks for the assistance Kevin & Bill. I'm not much of a green thumb but I'm trying! -- - Cods pbqf_at@ubgznvy.pbz (un ROT-13 to email) Welcome to KILLFILE, population: You. |
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