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Old 13-Jun-2004   #1
Billy M. Rhodes
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Re: [IBC] Bonsai from seeds

In a message dated 6/13/2004 6:49:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FIFA_International@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

> Hello, I was wondering how does one go about keeping the size of a
> seedling down after it starts to grow. If I leave it..I'm sure it will
> grow into its natural shape, a full sized tree. Do I just let it grow and
> then prune the roots in early spring or late winter? Also, if I cut any
> branches, will the trunk make new ones? Can I do something to encourage it
> to make more branches and twigs? Any help would be appreciated.
>


The answer to most specific Bonsai questions usually depends upon the
species of plant in question. The growth of a seedling can frequently be
controlled with light, fertilizer and water. Usually the more light a plant gets
the more compact it will be. Don't over fertilize or overwater. Keeping the
plant in a small, shallow container will also slow growth.
BUT, a seedling grown this way will take 20 years or more to be a nice
Bonsai.
If you must start with seed, plant the seedling in the ground as soon
as it is large enough, let it get big and chop it back. This will result in a
Bonsai in 10 years.
Most of us buy plants others have spent time growing, or dig plants up
from the ground. A lot of Bonsai are started as cuttings which can give you
a head start.

Billy on the Florida Space Coast
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Florida
Workshops with Jerry Meislek of Whitefish, Montana and Chase Rosade of New
Hope, PA.

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Old 14-Jun-2004   #2
Dan Voicu
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[IBC] Bonsai from seeds

Hello, I was wondering how does one go about keeping the size of a
seedling down after it starts to grow. If I leave it..I'm sure it will
grow into its natural shape, a full sized tree. Do I just let it grow and
then prune the roots in early spring or late winter? Also, if I cut any
branches, will the trunk make new ones? Can I do something to encourage it
to make more branches and twigs? Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 14-Jun-2004   #3
kevin bailey
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Re: [IBC] Bonsai from seeds

Billy is spot on.

I would add that the tiniest of Bonsai are grown in a micro pot from seed. In these a single leaf can represent a whole branch. They are fun but difficult to keep alive for any great length of time.

Growing from seed is one of those things that can add a whole new dimension to a bonsai passion but it is not the best way to get started. That said, if I hadn't sown those seeds when I got going, I wouldn't have many of the unusual species as ten to fifteen year old, ground-grown stock, ready for lifting and styling in coming springs.

Cheers

Kev Bailey
Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales

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Old 14-Jun-2004   #4
martyhab
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Re: [IBC] Bonsai from seeds

These are excellent questions from a beginner. Combined, they represent an
inquiry into the art of miniaturization, which is at the heart of bonsai
culture.
The first concept to absorb is the balancing of roots and superstructure.
If the roots are not constrained, they will force unwanted top growth; and
if the branches, which support the foliage, are not properly pruned, they
will force unwanted root growth.
Since the tree you describe is very young, you have the opportunity to train
it without much difficulty. The main consideration is the need for
patience. You say that your tree has very little branching and you want to
know how to encourage it. This is the easiest part of your work. Young
trees tend to push straight up in the attempt to gain the maximum sunlight.
Along the trunk, you should find lots of buds and small leaves. In your
mind's eye, determine how you would like the branches to be situated on the
trunk in order to develop a triangular shape. You might sit down and draw a
picture. Then select a bud about 1/3 up the trunk from which you want to
create your lowest branch. Then look for a bud on the opposite side of the
trunk and a bit higher than the first. Now remove all buds below the second
branch except for the two selected ones. Now look for a bud to the rear of
the trunk and higher than #2 branch. Again, remove any buds between the
rear bud and #2. Next, repeat the 1,2,3 procedure, as you go up the trunk,
removing unwanted buds as you go.
Now you may not find buds exactly where you want them. Leave an imaginary
space for them and go on to the next bud selection as though the missing bud
were already there.
If your response is that there are NO buds showing, your job is easy ...
just wait until they DO appear. Patience, my friend, patience.
Marty

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From: "Dan Voicu" <FIFA_International@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Subject: [IBC] Bonsai from seeds


> Hello, I was wondering how does one go about keeping the size of a
> seedling down after it starts to grow. If I leave it..I'm sure it will
> grow into its natural shape, a full sized tree. Do I just let it grow and
> then prune the roots in early spring or late winter? Also, if I cut any
> branches, will the trunk make new ones? Can I do something to encourage it
> to make more branches and twigs? Any help would be appreciated.
>
>

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