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[IBC] black splotches on Elm leaves

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Old 13-May-2004   #1
SHO2n
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black splotches on Elm leaves

Here is one I have not seen before-
Black splotches, like ink or oil on leaves and new shoots on most of my elms.
Sound familiar to anyone?
M.P.


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Old 13-May-2004   #2
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Re: [IBC] black splotches on Elm leaves

> Here is one I have not seen before-
> Black splotches, like ink or oil on leaves and new shoots on

most of my elms.
> Sound familiar to anyone?


Yeah. :-(

If it's what I had the black will cause the leaves to dry out so
they crumble at the touch.

It's a vascular fungus of some sort. Chinese elms are dying all
over Tallahassee from the stuff. I discovered it on one of my
mame elms at our show this weekend, and took it right out of the
show and home. Prognosis for it is poor to awful.

Jim Lewis - jklewis@nettally.com - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 13-May-2004   #3
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Old 13-May-2004   #4
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Re: [IBC] Nina? Re: [IBC] black splotches on Elm leaves

>
> Jim, if you know any more details about the disease you are

talking about, please let me know- The only vascular disease of
elm (besides dutch elm disease) that I'm familiar with is "elm
yellows".
>


Botryosphaeria. It requires an injury to enter (apparently) and
a wound from removing a branch or twig -- or even severe
bendings -- seems to be enough.

This according to our extension forester & U of Fla. tree guys.

BTW, as far as I am concerned Drake elms can all go extinct,
anyway.

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Old 13-May-2004   #5
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Re: [IBC] Nina? Re: [IBC] black splotches on Elm leaves

>> Botryosphaeria. It requires an injury to enter (apparently) and
> a wound from removing a branch or twig -- or even severe
> bendings -- seems to be enough.


Botryosphaeria is one of the common canker-causing fungi. It is not a vascular disease- it can only spread externally through wounds, although an existing canker will expand and eventually girdle the branch. It is more severe on stressed plants. There'
s nothing to do except excise the canker, and if a bonsai is permanently marred by doing that, well, it's off to the compost pile.

If you are having a big problem with it in Florida, it must be due to some weather condition: drought? Hail? that is exacerbating it.

Nina

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Old 13-May-2004   #6
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Re: [IBC] Nina? Re: [IBC] black splotches on Elm leaves

> >> Botryosphaeria. It requires an injury to enter (apparently)
and
> > a wound from removing a branch or twig -- or even severe
> > bendings -- seems to be enough.

>
> Botryosphaeria is one of the common canker-causing fungi. It

is not a vascular disease- it can only spread externally through
wounds, although an existing canker will expand and eventually
girdle the branch. It is more severe on stressed plants.
There's nothing to do except excise the canker, and if a bonsai
is permanently marred by doing that, well, it's off to the
compost pile.
>
> If you are having a big problem with it in Florida, it must be

due to some weather condition: drought? Hail? that is
exacerbating it.

Drought. Landscape trees are getting it though damage by mowers
and string trimmers, etc. Something like 45% of the Drake and
lacebark elms in Tallahassee are going or gone. No loss IMHO.

But this may no be what I'm seeing on my bonsai elms. (It's not
leaf spot, either, as far as I can tell. The leaves turn
freckled brown, then crispy, then black -- like they have been
burned with a blowtorch.)

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encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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