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Old 11-Apr-2005   #1
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Question Red Tinge on Green Maples?

Hi all,
maybe you can help me.

Two of my maples, a Acer Palmatum Katsura as well as regular green Dissectum have started to get a reddish tinge on their leaves and stems, as well as minute pinprick like black spots on some leaves.

I've ruled out insect pests, as well as leaf burn, (first part of april in Europe not that many sunny days yet) but was wondering wether it might be some fungal infection.

All plants are potted, there has been no frostdamage. The weather has been rather wet and cold lately, Temps between 5șC and 18șC at best. A couple of sunny days.

At the spot they are standing they get no more than 4 hours of Sun a day.

Other maples I have (atropurpureum,atrop dissect, Deshojo, Sode Nishiki, etc.) have not shown any signs of disease or infection.

Maybe you can help me lay my worries to rest.
I've inclosed various pictures.

greetings,

node

Attached (Images of Acer Palm. Katsura - Damaged Leaves vs. Healthy Leaves)
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Old 11-Apr-2005   #2
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Question Red Tinge on Green Maples - part2

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Hello node,

I haven't seen this particular problem first-hand, so my feedback is of limited use.

Still, I'd like to ask: is it possible that these trees have been over-fertilized?

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Green Leaf

They have been fertalized recently that is true.

I have used Blood & Bonemeal, but not really in great amounts I thought.
I admit to being new at using those products as fertalizers, as I only recently switched to organic stuff, but that was the reason why I was trying to be very careful with the respective amounts.

If it really turns out to be over-fertilization I know what to do, trickle water through the pot for 24-48h, but I'm not totally convinced yet.

Can anybody confirm this or knows something else it could be?

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They have been fertalized recently that is true.

I have used Blood & Bonemeal, but not really in great amounts I thought.
I admit to being new at using those products as fertalizers, as I only recently switched to organic stuff, but that was the reason why I was trying to be very careful with the respective amounts.

If it really turns out to be over-fertilization I know what to do, trickle water through the pot for 24-48h, but I'm not totally convinced yet.

Can anybody confirm this or knows something else it could be?

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Attached: another closeup of the Katsura, this time of a damaged leaf underside.


Unless you really caked on the bone/bloodmeal, overfertilization sounds unlikely.

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...only a light sprinkling, and other acers that consistantly got the same treatment do not appear to show any symptoms at all, Bonsai or plant.

I'm just trying to find out what's wrong at an early stage, so I can still do something about it. I didn't really feel like waiting another couple of weeks before posting in "Dying Bonsai"...
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Again, i am not sure as i havent seen this problem first hand, but possibly they are staying too wet? The underside of the leaf made me think that because it kinda of looks like its rotted or something. Another possibility is windburn which maples do get very easily, are they in a sheltered or windy position?

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Red Leaf

The plants are screened from strong winds and haven't had all that much chance to get a bit of sun due to the poor weather here lately. It has been cold and wet, no frost though.

Would overwatering cause this reddish color?
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I couldnt be sure, but its definitely another option i would look into.

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I just had a load of Acer Palmatum sprouts pop out this spring. I planted them in egg cartons in pete. One thing that I noticed, is that the early larger sprouts began to get that red tint wich we see in your photos. I thought this was odd, so I planted the sprouts in small pots. The main difference in the ones with red tint and the green ones was age. That means that the older ones had grown through the bottom of the egg carton. Basically I think that the red tint is a sign of stress. My second guess would be over-watering, or poor drainage.
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