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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
Join Date: Feb-2008
Location: Navan, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 18
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Preventing Spider Mites
Hey I fear my Juniperus is infected with spider mites. I noticed a white residue on the needles and recently there were many discolored leaves but, I just past if off as over watering as we have had non-stop rain the last couple of weeks. I notice one or two spider like webs and I even squished a tiny red bug that looked like a little moving dot on my pot. However the rain has stopped and the leaves are turning back to normal. It looks as If nothing is wrong. How do I prevent an infestation and could this just be over watering?
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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I'm not aware of any prevention methods other than regular watering with a high intensity jet of water. This tends to knock them off.
There may be some systemic insecticides as well, but I don't like using them.
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Apr-2008
Location: Chicago suburb
Country: U.S.
Posts: 67
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Spider mites
I have used insecticidal soap with no ill effects.
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Sensei-in-Training (Very)
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Spider mites tend to prefer drier conditions. As Mello said you can jet them off when you have them, but keeping things a bit on the wet side will also reduce the likelihood of them showing up in the first place. I suspect that misting during hot weather pretty much does the trick. We had them on some of our rose bushes one year, but I've never seen them on my bonsai. The main difference is that I mist my trees but mostly let mother nature take care of the roses.
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7 year newbie
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I for one, HATE spider mites with a passion. Finally, though, I seem to have them under control. By all means, try insecticidal soap and neem oil first but when those fail try Orthonex. I spray once a week for 4 weeks and the little buggers are gone.
Now I've been spraying once monthly to prevent another outbreak. Was so bad at one point I had to defoliate most of my tropicals. Thankfully I didn't loose anything. I have heard from other people about treating once a month with no adverse effects. -EK
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
Country: USA
Posts: 1,799
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G'day Kid...
In the 2 or 3 time I've had spidermites, I've chased them off with Carl's Soap Solution. Simply follow the directions...below. CSS works for me...it might work for you. Or not Pat CARL’S SOAP SOLUTION! INGREDIENTS Water Dish Detergent Rubbing Alcohol Vegetable Oil DIRECTIONS Fill a gallon jug with water and add one (1) or two (2) tablespoons of dishwashing detergent and one (1) tablespoon of vegetable oil (or Neem oil). Shake up the gallon jug to mix the ingredients. Pour this solution from the gallon bottle into a spray bottle and just before using add 1 to 2 two caps full (from the rubbing alcohol bottle) of rubbing alcohol and spray immediately. If you do not use the full bottle of spray, the next time you are going to use the soap/alcohol solution add the same amount of rubbing alcohol again, since the alcohol will evaporate. You can store this soap/oil solution in the gallon jug for months on end. It does not seem to go bad. Spray on plants covering all leaf and stem surfaces. You may have to spray from three to four times with intervals of three days. This works for almost any kind of pest that attacks your trees, including scale. I do not wash off the spray and have seen no adverse reaction to the trees from this mixture. From Carl L. Rosner, 4/11/2007
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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There is always the Nicotine option. I dont think there are any nicotine products on the market now...but there is a way to make your own. Get a bag of chewing tobacco (red man, levi garrett, but not Lancaster...it has too much molassas added during the curing) You can make in one of two ways, the first is to just chop up the tobacco until its about as couse as soil mix and let it sit in about a liter or quart of water overnite. The second is similar to the 1st, but you but the bag of tobacco and the water into a blender and do a coarse chop for a few seconds, (This is ONLY if you have access to a blender that isn't used for food stuffs anymore) Once it has steeped (like tea), strain it with a kitchen sieve first to get out the coarse bits of tobacco, then run the mix through a coffee filter to get out the rest. Then, I would try a 2-1 water to nicotine ratio to see if it is strong enough to knock down the mites. I would not advise this as a routine spray, but it's cheaper than Avid miticide ($100 a quart). Of course, another way to use this concentrate is as an additive to the insecticidal soaps. If going that route, I would rotate soap without nicotine twice, then the soap with nicotine. There is always some caution that should be used with concentrated nicotine. The stuff is poision... so, use appropriate gloves and safety gear when making and mixing it. Because it's a "folk remedy" there is no way to be 100% certain the concentrations you're working with, but it's a safe bet your less than the 40% that the nicotine based insecticide products.
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Correction... Avid Miticide is $250 a quart... or you can get an 8 oz. bottle of it for just over $100...
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
Join Date: Apr-2008
Country: Denmark
Posts: 1
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I have also had a "little" problem with spider mites, but i used this:
4 parts water 1 part liquid brown soap 1 part Alcohol (not the kind you drink) used it 3 times with 3 days apart, and then the problem was solved, use a lot of the stuff, also remember to get the underside of the leafs. The best is that it works, and it's a lot cheaper than $200 ![]() If you want to use biology, you can use "Phytoseiulus persimilis", it is a mite that eats spider mites, but that solution is a bit more expensive. Good luck. |
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