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Controlling Aphids (successful History)

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Old 9-Sep-2002   #11
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Doody - i read soil aphids in a book i think - i will have a look tonight for it

Muniz - i have been using white oil for over 10 years now with no ill effects. I plaster it on and it works very well. i use this only when i can see the bugs as it is an aerosol can and the environment to think about and all

The garlic and pyrithrum spray is used as a deterent, again i use as much as i care to (not an aerosol can) with no ill effects. Garlic does nothing but stink and i guess bugs dont like stinky trees...neither do vampires so i get to 'kill 2 birds with one stone' there, nothing like a vampire plague in your trees. the pyrithrum is natural...from a flower i forget the name of, so i doubt its going to hurt anything but mosquitos....

But then again, this is only 10+ years of actual usage year in and year out, not a scientific experiment.


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Old 9-Sep-2002   #12
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oh the aphid thing, found it.

BONSAI - Japanese Miniature Trees by Kan Yashiroda, from about 1965!! An oldie but a goodie.

says... 'Some apides, woolly apple aphis included, may attak the roots of such plants as flowering crab apple.' and ' For root-aphis all the soil should be washed off the roots and the plant dipped in a nicotine and soft soap solution. repotting should take place immediately using a fresh compost and the same container when it has been washed.'

Im not sure if nicotine is the answer, there are better things available nowdays im sure....

The aphis is called Wooly Apple Aphid (Eriosoma lanigerum)
http://www.gaipm.org/id/applei.html
for a pic at the bottom of that page or

http://pmo.umext.maine.edu/apple/Ap...-2002-07-26.htm


or for all types of bugs
http://www.backyardgardener.com/ins...ectcontrol.html

cheers

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Old 9-Sep-2002   #13
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Thanks for the help Jules. Could you just put a chunk of garlic in the soil, and does garlic work on other bugs?
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I recall seeing something on soil aphids with respect to cabbage. I don't know if soil aphids are really your problem, but Diazinon crystals are an effective soil insecticide.

Also reducing the coverage of moss and certainly keeping trees outdoors helps.

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Matt,

Be careful !!! Diazinon is very very toxic. read the news text above from EPA: http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpres...31?OpenDocument

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FOR RELEASE: TUESDAY, DEC. 5, 2000

EPA ANNOUNCES ELIMINATION OF ALL INDOOR USES OF WIDELY-USEDPESTICIDE DIAZINON; BEGINS PHASE-OUT
OF LAWN AND GARDEN USES



Today, EPA announced an agreement to phase-out diazinon, one of the most widely used pesticides in the United States, for indoor uses, beginning in March 2001, and for all lawn, garden and turf uses by December 2003.

"The Clinton-Gore Administration continues to aggressively target for elimination those pesticides that pose the greatest risk to human health and the environment, and especially those posing the greatest risk to children," said Carol M. Browner, EPA Administrator. "The action we are taking today is another major step toward ensuring that all Americans can enjoy greater safety from exposure to harmful pesticides."

"Today's action will significantly eliminate the vast majority of organophosphate insecticide products in and around the home, and by implementing this phase-out, it will help encourage consumers to move to safer pest control practice," said Browner.

Diazinon is the most widely used pesticide by homeowners on lawns, and is one of the most widely used pesticide ingredients for application around the home and in gardens. It is used to control insects and grub worms. The agreement reached today with the manufacturers, Syngenta and Makhteshim Agan, will eliminate 75 percent of the use which amounts to more than 11 million pounds of the pesticide used annually.

EPA is taking this action under the Food Quality Protection Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996 after the Administration helped lead the way for the new, tougher national pesticide law. Since then, EPA has targeted a large group of older, riskier pesticides called organophosphates for review because they pose the greatest potential risk to children. In August of 1999, for example, EPA announced action against methyl parathion and azinphos methyl to protect children from pesticide residues in food. The Agency reached an agreement to halt by December 2000 the manufacture of chlorpyrifos, or Dursban, for nearly all residential uses. Diazinon – used in homes, and on lawns and gardens – is the latest organophosphate to be phased out. Specifically, the terms of the agreement implement the following phase-out schedules:

For the indoor household use, the registration will be canceled on March 2001, and all retail sales will stop by December 2002.
For all lawn, garden and turf uses, manufacturing stops in June 2003; all sales and distribution to retailers ends in August 2003. Further, the company will implement a product recovery program in 2004 to complete the phase out of the product.
Additionally, as part of the phase out, for all lawn, garden, and turf uses, the agreement ratchets down the manufacturing amounts. Specifically, for 2002, there will be a 25 percent decrease in production; and for 2003, there will be a 50 percent decrease in production.
Also, the agreement begins the process to cancel around 20 different uses on food crops.

Organophosphates can affect the nervous system. The effects from diazinon vary depending on the dose, but symptoms from over-exposure can include nausea, headaches, vomiting, diarrhea, and general weakness. Today's action also represents an important step for the environment. Diazinon's use on turf poses a risk to birds, and it is one of the most commonly found pesticides in air, rain, and drinking and surface water.

It is legal to purchase and use diazinon products according to label directions and precautions. Consumers should take special care to always read and follow the label directions and precautions. If consumers choose to discontinue use, they should contact their state or local hazardous waste disposal program or the local solid waste collection service for information on proper disposal.

Additional information can be found at: www.epa.gov/pesticides.
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Old 9-Sep-2002   #16
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No problem doody, im not sure how a chunk of garlic would work!! lol

All i can tell you is this spray stinks and the airborn bugs go flying and those of the walking variety pack up and leave. They may come back who knows but it has never ever hurt my trees, its all natural and in a pump pack so i figure i cant go wrong.

I cant say i have ever had any root infestations apart from ants and slugs....

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