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11-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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The brutality I inflict is species dependent. Some, like elms and SOME hornbeam, can take it. Other species can be alot more touchy, like beech.
Collection TIME is also critical. Too soon and the tree will not recover. Too late and the tree will be crippled or overtaxed. Recognizing bud development in the species you're collecting is important. The best time is when buds are ABOUT to open, not resting, not already open. This takes observation of trees around you in your area. It varies tremendously. Watch how things happen to trees in the woods around you this spring. |
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12-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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Rockm how do you treat native sweet gums, and what be done to improve on the
nebari for them specifically(I've found a great sweet gum but it has 1 root for nebari  ). I just now thought of possibly air-layering it instead but then I would have very small roots for nebari, so what you do?Last edited by sweetgum_master : 12-Jan-2008 at 02:16 PM. |
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12-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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"Rockm how do you treat native sweet gums, and what be done to improve on the
nebari for them specifically(I've found a great sweet gum but it has 1 root for nebari)." Look for better material  . It's out there. There are sweetgum around here that have pretty decent nebari. I don't like the species (north american species) as bonsai. Too coarse in habit. Never develops great ramification and the leaves don't reduce that much.Yamadori worth collecting isn't that common. It takes ALOT of poking around and searching individual trees to find them. As you collect stuff you will learn to recognize the signs of where to look and which trees could offer the best potential. Can't really teach this. It just takes time and alot of looking around. |
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12-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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Well the good thing is I found some bareroot seedlings that i'm going to get as I don't know where to find a place to collect(with permission) a sweet gum like what I'm looking for so I'm going to get a couple of 3'-4' bare root seedlings to plant in some pots for a year or two. I'm going to use brents method for seedlings for one and another method where you wrap some wire around the tap root and pot it in a decent sized pot.
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12-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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I found some sweetgums under 1"-1.5" that would be "PERFECT" forest material great nebari where it is needed, with moving trunks; though not much low branching but that does not really matter when they bud back well. All the trees will fit in either 1 or 2 gallon nursery containers. They are also growing in a soil fairly high in leaf mold which means they probably have some decent fibrous rots fairly close to the trunk. I'm curious if these trees might be young enough to dig up early(in about 1-4 weeks when buy my soil[as the equivalent of bare-root seedlings]) if they do in fact have lots of fibrous roots?
Last edited by sweetgum_master : 12-Jan-2008 at 06:18 PM. |
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12-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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There is no correlation to digging up an older tree and a younger one as far as timing goes. I would not collect them now.
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12-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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OK I'll try and be patient since I just pulled up some tiny 1-3 year old red maples for a forest.
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