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Old 19-Apr-2008   #11
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Hornbeam has pleated leaves that have smooth edges, maybe it's a hornbeam? They are commonly imported from Korea, etc.

Keeping them out of the sun after repotting presupposes that they have leaves. The leaves continue to 'transpire' (sweat) but if the roots have been cut, they can't take up water to supply to the leaves. So putting them in shade or dappled shade helps until the roots regrow.

However, with this tree, you want warmth on the roots to stimulate them to grow.

Now, (she says in her best Mommy Voice) don't mess with it. Let it recover. It really would be better outside, but if you have to keep it in, make sure that it is not near a heater vent. A tray of pebbles with water, under the pot (but not allowing the pot to touch the water) may help raise the humidity in the immediate area. Wouldn't hurt. You could use aquarium gravel or something.

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Old 20-Apr-2008   #12
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Thanks again.

The reason I am a little weary about putting the tree outside is the fact we are still getting some pretty cold nights where I am at the moment and I didn't think that would be particularly good for the roots if they got too cold.
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How cold? It's easy to protect one little outdoor tree, if it's above freezing. What are your highs and lows right now?

Trees like to be outside... they aren't like invalid people that way, who need to be kept warm or they will get sicker. Somehow, they need the outdoors to be well.

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Old 20-Apr-2008   #14
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Cold enough to snow in April. We had a bitterly cold Northerly wind blowing in the other day too which yellowed a lot of leaved on my "thousand star". Think nights went down to about 4c the other night, but we are warming up now it was 8c last night.

It's going to start warming up more this week but still be wet. It should be ok to leave outside for a while right? The soil won't get over wet from the rain?
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Old 25-Apr-2008   #15
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Just an update. It has been outside for a number of days now, and still hasn't shown any signs of new growth. I noticed yesterday that a lot of the secondary branches were dead judging by the scratch test so I pretty much cut all the branches back to the primary branch system.

Was this a right move? I just think that having dead branches hanging on were probably not doing it a whole heap of good, and by getting rid of the old I would be making room for the new.

It's got to the point where I feel there is nothing to lose, if the worst comes to worst I got myself a relatively cheap pot.
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Just an update. It has been outside for a number of days now, and still hasn't shown any signs of new growth. I noticed yesterday that a lot of the secondary branches were dead judging by the scratch test so I pretty much cut all the branches back to the primary branch system.

Was this a right move? I just think that having dead branches hanging on were probably not doing it a whole heap of good, and by getting rid of the old I would be making room for the new.

It's got to the point where I feel there is nothing to lose, if the worst comes to worst I got myself a relatively cheap pot.
Wasn't a horrible move, but I think just doing nothing is a little better.
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Your weather should be starting warm up a bit now so give it more sun!!!!England!!!.
I think you have a Maple ( Acer ) going by what I see of the way the twigs and branches are growing.
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Old 26-Apr-2008   #18
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Bon5A1...

It's been a week now...you've been given a lot of advice...much of it good...however, you need, and we need, to know conclusively what species your tree is.

If your tree is an outdoor type, and most are, it's almost certain death when kept indoors. Until you know the species, you don't know...indoor or out.

Another thing...you'd do youself a great favor if you would find a local bonsai club, and hook up with a "local"...a person who has extensive bonsai experience in YOUR local area.

Further, Bon5A1, it appears that you doing things and then asking if they are OK to do...after the fact. Bad on ya'! It's a very good idea to ask first...unless you don't care whether or not your bonsai survives.

And remember, Bon5A1, bonsai is a trip that demands time and patience. Welcome aboard, and, enjoy the journey.

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Your weather should be starting warm up a bit now so give it more sun!!!!England!!!.
I think you have a Maple ( Acer ) going by what I see of the way the twigs and branches are growing.
It has started warming up now which is a good thing. I have the tree outside in a south facing garden so it's getting the maximum amount of sun possible.

As for it being a Maple, now that you mention it, I see your point. Your going be the sort of Y shapping on the branches aren't you?


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It's been a week now...you've been given a lot of advice...much of it good...however, you need, and we need, to know conclusively what species your tree is
I know, the suspense is killing me!

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If your tree is an outdoor type, and most are, it's almost certain death when kept indoors. Until you know the species, you don't know...indoor or out.
Which is why it is outside. The only reason I was a bit weary of getting it out sooner was the cold nights we were having

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Further, Bon5A1, it appears that you doing things and then asking if they are OK to do...after the fact. Bad on ya'! It's a very good idea to ask first...unless you don't care whether or not your bonsai survives.
I know, that was a very bad move. Should really have asked first but I thought that once a branch was dead, it was dead.

Thanks for the comments by the way. It's good to have a place to go where you can get friendly advice and assistance on these things when you need it.
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