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Old 21-Jun-2003   #1
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Need Advice For Beginner With Dying Bonsai

I purchased a bonsai about 2 months ago. The woman I purchased it from advised me to water it a lot. I water it everyday, sometimes misting the tree with water as well (I keep it indoors, something she said would be all right).

A few weeks ago, I noticed new, bright green growths on the ends of the branches. Recently, however, the leaves closest to the trunk have turned brown and are very dry and stiff. The new growths are still bright and growing. What is the problem?

I am not sure what variety the tree is - it has short needles clustered together - not leaves.

Is there any way to save this tree?? I tried putting it in sunlight, and under a flourescent light, and not watering it as much - but nothing seems to help. Please offer any advice you might have!!!
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Old 21-Jun-2003   #2
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well... where to start? ok... you arent supposed to keep the tree inside it will kill it almost guarenteed.. you arent supposed to water it alot , cause junipers(the kind of tree you have) dont like too much water, your tree is most likely either a chinese juniper or a juniperus procumbens nana are there any rocks glued tot the soil? if so take thm off, and mix some sand in with the soil they have the tree in, and hopefully its not too late.. alot of times junipers will be dead 2 weeks before you notice anything at all wrong with the tree
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Old 21-Jun-2003   #3
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Well, I guess the bonsai saleswoman didn't know as much as we gave her credit for...

There are no rocks glued to anything. There are loose small rocks on top of the soil.

The weird thing about it is, my sister has the same tree, purchased at the same time, keeping it in the same conditions, and hers looks great!

I've also posted another picture of the new growth.

Should I continue watering it everyday outside? I live in the south, and it is 90+ here right now.
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well, i also live in the south (central alabama) and junipers love the weather here, i have one juniper under a big shade tree, and i NEVER water it (not that you should do that, it was just an experiment) and its very healthy, i keep my othe rjunipers under a poarch and water about 2-3 times a week
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also tell your sister to put hers outsiode also
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Old 21-Jun-2003   #6
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Thanks so much for your advice...

I'm in south Arkansas. I will move the tree outside and hope for the best?? I'm afraid it is already dead, but it is so strange to see these new bright green leaves growing when the rest of the tree looks so bad.
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Chollis, your tree doesn't look that bad to me. The needles at the ends of the branches and growing tips are a much better guide to the health of the tree than interior needles or needles further back on the brances. Over time, all needles eventually turn brown and die. On Junipers, they just don't do it all at once in the Fall as deciduous trees do.

The advice you've received to put your tree outside is sound. It looks to me like J. procumbens "nana". I have a couple of these trees and they look just like yours and have looked like this for the 16 months I've had them and during which they gown quite a bit. Another year or two and I will style them and put them into bonsai pots. For now, I'm growing them out in growboxes. If you have them in half way decent soil for potted trees (granular, fast draining but with some of the mix components water-retaining), their daly care is not that exacting. I water mine once a day with a garden hose and that's about it. I give them a tablespoon of ordinary 8-8-8 fertilizer from Walmart every 3 or 4 weeks. I gather that's pretty close to what Walter Pall, our resident Bonsai Genius does with his, so if you want to follow this sort of a regimen, you'll be in good company.

Trees of the quality you've shown are not difficult to pick up at most local nurseries, or even Walmart or Lowe's as regular, landscaping trees. If you've caught the bug, you may want to look for something like them at his time, or such commonly used deciduous trees as Crepe Myrtle, Boxwood, Cotoneaster or other small-leaved deciduous species. You will probably find several trees more fun and you will pick up experience much faster. We're really out of the collecting season, which is around February to earl May here in Arkansas, but you might also want to scout around for trees to dig later in the year. Most of the deciduous species can also be dug in mid to late Fall.

Good luck to you. As Ron Martin has said, Bonsai is about the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Hope ti hear from you again.

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