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21-Mar-2004
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Juniper In Poor Health... Possibly?
i have a juniper that seems to have lost some of it's green... not really turned brown, just not as green as it was...
it had vigorously grown over the winter in-doors (i now know that the garage would've been the best place for him, but whachagonna do?) and after an extensive trimming session, i got rid of most of the new growth and some of the old... well, now it's just not as green as it once was. did i trim too much? do i need to fertilize? is it something else i'm not thinking about? here's some pics of the tree in the past, i'll try to take a good one of it as it currently stands... http://vynsane.com/semicascade.html |
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21-Mar-2004
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Those pictures appear to be 5 months old. It was healthy, then at least.
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21-Mar-2004
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okay, i was able to snap some pics, luckily in the same kind of lighting situtation as the previous ones. it's now on the page linked above...
it's not as green, but not by as much as i was thinking... i don't know if that made much sense. here's a detailed shot of a foliage mass, i think i may have damaged older growth by pruning too much - will this heal, or will this remain ugly? http://www.vynsane.com/pictures/semicascadedetail.jpg Last edited by vynsane : 21-Mar-2004 at 04:21 PM. |
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21-Mar-2004
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I have 4 J. procumbens (2 "nana", 2 "Green Mound") which I have had for 2 years. I overwinter them outdoors and would have some concerns about the effect of keeping them indoors for extended periods of time. Iwould not do that, but can not say for sure what the effect would be. I do know that Winter temperatures here down to 5 degrees F. have not injured them.
In regard to browning, I have noticed that at times on all 4 trees (actually 5. I accidentally divided one and both halves lived, in fact, flourished), particularly the "Green Mounds". In some cases, it seemed to be related to repotting; in others, it appeared to me to be a seasonal effect. I took no action and in every case the trees recovered without apparent ill effect. Actually, one of the "Green Mounds" has browned off recently, I think because of being repotted last Fall, but I'm not giving it much thought because of the strong budding and growth that has been occurring nearly simultaneously. Don't know if it's any help, but that's been my experience. Fred |
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21-Mar-2004
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Don't take my word for this but looking at the picture I can only see browning at the tips of the foliage, when you trimed back did you trim with siccors or by hand (pinching?) if it was using scissors then chances are that this has caused it you should not cut through the neddles or they will brown at the tips, however it isn't serious and i'd think it would be all green by mid summer at latest.
Agree with Fred though should be outside through winter and consequently from it not being, it could be an early indication of something more serious. Hope it helps Jonny. |
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21-Mar-2004
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You cut through the growing needles and this will cause them to die back to the next branch. Proper pruning would be to either pinch out the growing tips, remove entire branchlets or cut carefully between the scales (that last one's tough to do and not always successful!) BTW: Please post the images directly on the forum rather than refer to a bunch of offsite links to impermanent photos. The reason for this is that we are trying to create a helpful archive of questions and answers here that will help future forum visitors. If you just post a question, and you delete the photo a week from now, it will all become a frustrating series of links to broken images. Someone has to keep monitoring the links and pull the thread when the image is removed. Feel free to attach your photos in separate posts here at the bottom if you want. Otherwise I'll have to pull the thread, which would be quite useful otherwise. Regards, Matt
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22-Mar-2004
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okay, here's the tree a while ago (before bringing it in doors)
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22-Mar-2004
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here it is as it stands now...
Last edited by vynsane : 22-Mar-2004 at 03:17 PM. |
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22-Mar-2004
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i mostly finger pruned, i think - can't really remember. i think the major shoots that i took off i scissored, but most new growth was with my fingers. i might have utilized my figernails in a scissor-like fashion, which i would guess contributed to the browning. really when i look at the tree in those pics now, it's not as dingy in comparison as i had orignially thought, i think it might be a trick of more bark showing plus the browning at the tips that gives it the less green feeling... like i said, it's not dead foliage - it's still soft and flexible, not crispy and brittle.
jonny d - you said it would probably green out by summer - should i do anything to encourage this? fertilizer? (i know i should fertilize anyway... getting to that season...) spray-paint? (just kidding...) any advice would be great... incidentally, i thought links would be okay, as it would save bandwidth at this site, and it was linked to my website, which i plan to keep active for a long time to come... but if you insist on attachements, i can do nothing but comply. here's the detail... Last edited by vynsane : 22-Mar-2004 at 03:17 PM. |
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22-Mar-2004
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This tree looks healthy as can be to me; I would not be worried about it at all. I think the browning is a temporary effect of your pruning and will soon disappear as new growth overtakes it. You are obviously a close observer of your tree(s) and will soon adjust whatever is causing this very temporary effect as you continue to observe the effects of what you do to your trees.
I apply about a tablespoon of 7-7-7 fertilizer from Walmart to my trees about once a month from about March to about August or September, or something equivalent. During Fall, I switch to a low Nitrogen fertilizer. They are all growing like crazy, so it hasn't seemed to have done any harm yet. Because of the particular soil mix I use, it may not be necessary but I enjoy doing it, so I do. Fred |
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