Matt, thank you for this. I will now contact both Art of Bonsai and Knowledge of Bonsai and have my name and materials removed. I will have nothing to do with this.

Will realized (if belatedly) the gravity of his mistake. He recommended that we accept his resignation from AoB and KoB.
However, considering the tremendous amount of work he has done for both forums (and for a long time, to this forum as well), it is unfair to crucify him. Everybody deserves a second (or third) chance (maybe fourth). He is the "Bad Boy of Bonsai", a triple B rating (for those familiar with the bond markets). A unique position, but with a very high price.

Surely, and I will call you Shirley if I want, you must be joking.

"Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness...."

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He apologized, and took full responsibility. And you return from the beyond, breaking your precious silence, simpy to impart these words of "wisdom"?

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"Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You have done enough.

Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

Carl,Attila,Paul,

It's not about the supposedly "unknowing" plagerism.It's about the dishonesty and willful and malicious misconduct on this forum.Unlike others in here,I do have sympathy "for" Will,but I do not sympathise "with" him.

It's one thing to give some one a chance..or 2 or 3 or 4.But to believe that someone who has displayed as much self promotion and cheating as Will has on this forum,is "truly sorry" is too much for most to accept.Maybe y'all know him better than most.Maybe he has shown his good side to you.But to compare anyone to Mcarthy because they don't like or trust Will is going too far.Will has NOT been unfairly villified on this forum.As far as I can see he has earned every bit of disdain shown him.

Will has done some good things.Y'all have some nice sites up with his participation.But,he doesn't need defending...he needs reforming.

Give it some time.Let him prove himself.

andy

I have not yet been around this forum long enough to "know" Will Heath"...but... it would seem to me that he has done some really bad things to other people,, and done it repeatedly. What is so compelling about this man to warrant the continuing defense of him by other, I suppose, upstanding citizens of this board? This ongoing saga reminds me of the defense by family members of a known abuser, or alcoholic, or whatever, where the members of the man's family know full well his , ah, problems, and yet continue to defend him beyond all reason. What's the story here??

Just an outsider looking in,

Libby

I think it's a good time to distinguish between a person and his action.

I condemn the action, much less defend it.

I do, however, forgive the person. If I did not, I would consider myself vengeful and cruel. "And I do not need to defend myself for being forgiving.

Andy,
Don't bring me into this I have not said a word here.
-Paul

Paul,

My apologies.You are absolutely correct.Subconciously I added your name because of your affiliation with the websites.I was wrong to do that.

andy