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Old 24-Jun-2005   #11
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I wanted to go there, but I totally lost track of time over at Esveld.
Lodder is the next place on my list, just as soon as my budget recovers a bit.

Attached: Picked up this little guy while I was there: Acer Palmatum 'Enkan',
developed from the Red Pygmy cultivar.
It is supposed to keep the red color a lot better. I love this leaf type.

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Old 24-Jun-2005   #12
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Lovely pictures Node, thanks for sharing. I really like that red dissectum.

All the best,

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Inspirational!
Thank you for showing us the pictures. I'm tempted to buy a cork bark maple and there is a corker on ebay uk at the moment going real cheap and its near me. I might ask if I can see it personally before I bid, The seller has good feedback.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....3981772110&rd=1

Did you see any cork barks at Esveld?
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Thanks, I'm glad to share them. I can't wait to see what the Enkan looks like in fall and spring.

It's not a Dissectum though, I believe the leaf-type is called 'linear'.
I haven't seen a lot of those yet, and none as Bonsai.
I wouldn't know how well size of the leaves can be reduced.
Shooting from the hip, I my guess would be large size bonsai only.
What I have noticed very clearly though is that all the purple dissectums
hold up a lot better under the heat and sun were getting at the moment. All the green dissectums I've seen have crispy tips without excpetion, while all the purple cultivars seemed absolutely fine. I was pretty happy to see their green dissectums were looking as nasty as mine.

Here is a couple of pictures of three purple types and a pic from my green Dissectum thrown in for good measure.

Pic 1: Acer Palmatum Artopurpureum: Upright growing, 5-7 Lobed Purple leaves
Pic 2+3: Acer Palmatum Atropurpureum Dissectum: Mushroom-shaped, deeply divided, fern-like variegated purple leaves
Pic 4+5: Acer Palmatum Enkan: Upright growing, linear purple leaves
Pic 6: Acer Palmatum Dissectum: Mushroom-shaped, deeply divided, fern-like variegated leaves

(pics all taken today, with the exception of pic1, which I took one month ago.)
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Esvelds is famous thru-out Europe, a fabulous place, with very intelligent folk, a Dutch family if I recall correctly, botanical names are a sure thing, and their prices fit anyone's pocket.

I have bought from them quite a few trees, and they just cannot be beaten for quality, and if you really have the time it sure is worth a long visit, rare trees abound, and they have sure served me well.

All of my orders have been done by email and delivered by regular parcel post, I cannot praise them enough.

The pics that you posted, Node, are very exciting, and give a glimpse of just what one might expect.

Thank you....Nigel
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Node, thanks for posting the pictures. Very nice. I believe the tree in your 5th post is Acer shirasawanum 'Aureum', golden full moon maple. It is mentioned in 'Japanese Maples' by J.D. Vertrees.
"The most magnificent example of this cultivar grows in Boskoop, Netherlands, at the home of D.M. van Gelderen. The tree is nearly 140 years old and about 7-8 meters high with an even greater spread. It forms an immense golden dome at the end of the main path in the nursery of Firma C. Esveld. No records have been found of any tree larger than the Boskoop tree."

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I probably should have added that none of the multitude of A. palmatum cultivars would have come from it.
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Hm, I checked up on it, and apparently it used to be classified as Acer Japonicum, before it was reclassified as a Shirasawanum maple.
It's not Palmatum and not responsible for palmatum cultivars. It is for the Japonicums though.

In 1784 the sweed Thunberg was the first who described the Japanese Maples found by him in Japan. (Hokkaido & Honshu)
It took until in the 1820~ until the first shrubs were brought back by him to England.
At the time the Dutch East India Company (VOC - Verenigde Oostindische Companie) were the only ones with trade access to Japan.
Later in the 1850's Sibold started bringing back more maples to Europe.
Of the Shirasawanum two were brought back in the 1885.
One ended up at the Hortus Leiden (NL), the other one was planted at Esveld.
(Over the past years, they took the time and looked at the records, and recently found the exact shipment the tree came in.)

The one in Leiden was never uses for propagation and died about half a century ago, the one Esveld has IS the parent of a lot of cultivars, just not the Palmatum ones as I thought.


It is not the case with this maple, but usually if it was introduced by Sibold or Thunberg, it could carry the approproiate ending,
like all the plants we now know as 'Thunbergii' or 'Siboldii'.

Must have been a fine time for a botanist

Stefan

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Excerpt from the Book "Maples for Gardens" by C.J. & D.M. van Gelderen:

Described by J.A. Siesmayer, Germany, in 1888, but introduced into Europe about 1860 by Franz von Siebold and later Louis van Houtte.
Given the Horticultural Societies First Class Certificate in 1884 and Award of Garden Merit in 1993.
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