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Old 18-Jan-2004   #1
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Bunjin Red Pine Repairs

Here's a bunjin red pine (Pinus densiflora) that I've been worrying over for a couple of years. It never really had that bunjin flavor I thought that it should.

Yesterday I begain to bring the pine closer to the design I believe it should have. It's not yet "there," but it is on its way now I think.

Here you see the tree as it was yesterday morning. It has always been too full for a real bunjin, IMO, and there is a significant branch problem...

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Andy Rutledge
zone 8, Texas
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Old 18-Jan-2004   #2
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Here you can see a couple of the more significant problems highlighted.

+ The large branch in the middle on the right is far too thick, too straight and without taper.

+ The foliage in the middle on the left is much too lush for a bunjin pine and makes one large foliage mass in combination with the lush back branch at the same level.

I'm gonna fix it's wagon...

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Andy Rutledge
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Old 18-Jan-2004   #3
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Here's the pine after the work.

+ The two problem branches have been turned into jin.

+ The messiest branches have been given a bit more of a strict form.

+ Some of the upper branches have been shortened (but then wired to extend them, making some seem longer than before).

No, this one is not "there" yet, but it is on its way. The needles are quite long this year because I did not bud cut this summer. I let it grow freely to regain some vigor. When the needles are of the appropriate length (later this year), the canopy will appear to be of better proportion. It is, however, still too big; too voluminous.

The tree is beginning to show more age - important for bunjin, but it is still too young looking. Over the next few years I'll address the apical region (need some backbudding first) and probably eliminate one or two more small branches up there.

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Andy Rutledge
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Old 18-Jan-2004   #5
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Thanks David. I'm more pleased with this direction than with the previous form. Having done this, it will be easier for me (I think) to make other tough decisions about the branching.

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Very nice red pine. What do you have planned for the upper portion? Will you thin it a bit?
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Andy,

Big improvement. I've been going back and forth between the two photos to see exactly what you've done. Minor changes, big difference. Thanks.

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Andy,

Is this tree really Pinus resinosa? I have never seen anyone use this species before. I also have one that I have been playing with for the last 3 years.

Do you treat this tree the same as a Japanese Red Pine (Pinus densiflora)?
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Ack! I'm sorry, I did mean to write Pinus densiflora. My mistake. Thanks for asking about that deadgecko (??). It is Japanese red pine. Ugh.

Hank, yes, the apical region needs addressing. One or two more branches there will be removed or jinned.

I know that the jin on this pine will not stay for very long; a few years at most. But in the mean time it will add to a sense of age. By the time the jin is gone, or much smaller, the rest of the tree will have a more mature look to take up the slack.

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Andy, I am somewhat surprised to hear that the jins will only last for a few years. I am also curious about the following. Is it true: if the wood to be jinned is less than 25 or so years old the jins will not last long. On the other hand if it is older they will last considerably longer. I would appreciate hearing your comments on this.
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