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21-Mar-2003
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Black Pine Progress
Spring is here and it's picture taking time. ;-) Here's a Japanese black pine I've had for about 3 years. A year and a half ago I restyled it, removing the first branch and changing the front to the previous left side.
Below is the BEFORE pic. Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas |
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21-Mar-2003
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And here's the AFTER pic. It still needs a bit of detail wiring and quite a bit of development, but it's making progress I think. I'm also considering another front change and a different style. If anyone has an opinion on futher/different stylings, I'd be interested to read them.
Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas |
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21-Mar-2003
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Attila Soos
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I would increase the size and length of the first branch on the left.
Although I like the tree a lot, I have this uneasy feeling that the tree is about to tilt to the right. I would counterbalance with a little more visual weight on the left. Attila |
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21-Mar-2003
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Absolutely gorgeous tree.
I love what you've done with it, and I have tremendous respect for what you've done with such a hard species to cultivate. I am trying my hand at Pine, and it is so hard. Beautiful tree.
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21-Mar-2003
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I also like the new front and your restyling. Perhaps wire the lower right branch a bit up to fill up that gap on the right side while taking attila's advice and growing out the lower left.
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22-Mar-2003
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Wow! Great tree! From what I've heard, pines are not an easy species!
I agree with the comment that you should add some to the left of the tree to create more of a visual balance.
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22-Mar-2003
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Lookin' good, Andy.
The crystal ball predicts an expensive pot is in your future! Regards, Matt
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22-Mar-2003
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Thanks for the comments and observations. Yes, Matt, in the future this tree may deserve an expensive pot. I hope to sell it before that day comes. ;-)
As to the balance and foliar weight, extending the left side would be a mistake. The reason is that with longer lower branches on the "weak" side (the side opposite to that the tree grows) is both unnatural and makes the tree look smaller and the trunk weaker. If you've questions about this, try doing a virtual and see what happens. However, I do not discount the possibility that you may illustrate your point(s) in a way I've not yet considered. That's one reason that these kinds of exercises are cool. The tree is moving toward the right and so both the apex and the largest/longest branches need to be on that side. Actually, this tree will eventually end up being a bit more balanced as the apical structure is located a bit more central (adding a bit to the upper left) and the descending branches and their foliage made more balanced themselves. Right now the tree is a bit sparse and the branches are poorly defined. In the future, there will be the shoot volume necessary to clearly define things rather than simply trying to create a silhouette as I've done here. Always the future with bonsai. ;-) Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas |
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22-Mar-2003
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Andy,
First of all, great pine. Some day I'll start trying my hand at pine. Some day when I'm a lot more experienced! That was quite a helpful answer regarding the problem with lengthening the left side to correct the balance - thank you. How about addressing the problem by removing the lower-right branch, like this virtual? Best regards, Carl / OMC
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22-Mar-2003
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Hey Carl,
Thanks for biting. Your virt illustrates one of the issues of naturalness (and lack of it). With the tree growing toward the right, having the strongest/lowest growth on the left is unbalancing and not natural. Your virt would work just great if the apex were redirected toward the left and the energy/balance of the tree flowing that way. In fact, I've considered this change, but a bit more drastic - jinning part of the present top and removing all but one of the right side branches, taking the whole thing toward the left for a wind/lighting damaged mountain environment look. Not sure I want to do all of that just yet, though. ;-) Kind regards, Andy |
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