ATM: Juniper Procumbens - Critique

Walter_Pall

Thomas,

this is a misunderstanding. Nobody as far as I am concerned spoke about manicuring.
I at least only spoke about proportions and movement.
First the basic structure must be set, then comes the question whether you manicure it more or less.
If the proportions are not good you can manicure as much as you want. The more you manicure the more the poor proportions will stick out like a sore thumb.
Manicuring is the very last step in the refinement stage. You have done a good job in the very last step without properly (IMHO) going throught he first steps.
This thread has nothing to do with naturalsitic vs. classical.
Thiis is one of my problems. People expect me to speak about this and think that I do even when it has nothing to do with the subject.

best regads
Walter Pall

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Treebeard

It was I who used the word manicured...

Perhaps the wrong word to use...

Let me try to explain myself...

In the gallery photo I have hotlinked to, the trunk and deadwood are a lot more visible. Perhaps it is a trick of the light, or an artifact of the photo, but in the latest picture you submitted for Walter neither the deadwood or trunk are as visible. It is beautifully done, and yes you are right Thomas, lots of japanese show pines etc are similarly done. The problem for me is the foliage extending almost to the ground on the right in one smooth unbroken sweep of foliage. This is what I mean by too manicured, that there is too much of a good thing. With breaking it up, as David showed in his virtual, it is still very well manicured, just not so much in your face, if you like. Now I know the gallery pic is only a few months old, and has the foliage down low/right, but it looks more open in the picture from the gallery, and the foliage gives the impression of being layered, which in turn hints at openness. I hope this explains things.

Regards,

TB

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bulaste

Thomas,
When I saw your first pic it looked to me like the main trunk curved almost full circle back down to the first bend with the crown coming off the top of the outside bend, "that's strange", I thought.
Now I can see what's going on, I like it when they show a little trunk too.
Bula,ste