Thread CLOSED: The AoB NORTH AMERICA vs. EUROPE PHOTO CONTEST

agraham

Vance,

"But I do understand and it's a shame some of you are still wallowing in that old mud pit, this helps no one, not you, not me, not bonsai, and even more so it does not hurt He who shall not be named."

Unfortunately,the aformentioned yet un named "he"(notice the small "h") has left a perceived trail of lies,subterfuge, self agrrandizement and self promotion which legitimately leads to some mistrust of any endeavor with which he is associated...even when it is a worthy endeavor.Sad but true.


A couple of other things you might take into account are the mistatements and sequence of this promotion.I would have thought that the ones involved with this endeavor would have posted an announcement on AOB's front page before promoting it on other sites.If it was done,I missed it.Also, from a posting on another site by Will. ..Bonsai Today was involved from the very beginning....(oops,that statement has been edited out ).That's not a big deal except that it was conveniently left out of the first "announcement" here....and later denied.(and now editted)I'm sure it was just a mistake on Will's part.There is no way that man would lie.

I personally don't share the dismay at this contest,or its promotion on bT.But I am not surprised by it,nor do I fault those who are.


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Dale Cochoy

A very good thought Ian.
Time to "lock" this one out.
We can start our OWN fights here at BT and this one is already getting nasty.
Dale

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Christiaan

Even if Walter asks me to participate, I wouldn't. I have no more objections than the one I have already posted. I just stated my personal opinion. If one wants to enter this competition, by all means be my guest. Everybody has a choice to do so. I won't judge them because of it. Who am I to judge somebody else? I just expressed my concerns about the deeper motivation of organising such a contest because of my personal beliefs about what bonsai is meant to be. No more, no less.

Joanie

Yes, it would be best as Ian says, to take the discussion over to AoB. While the post about the contest, and the links, are all acceptable over here, it is their contest and they should be in touch with the replies/concerns/questions.

Contests are a heck of a lot of work, for very little reward. Usually the bickering, back-stabbing, and attempted rule-bending go far towards negating the fun and the final appreciation of the contest. I've been surprised and dismayed in the past (having been the moderator/contest coordinator in the past for several contests) how difficult it can be to keep everything in the proper spirit. Some people just can't play nice.

Sorry if this is an unusually negative post, but I've seen both sides and have come out of a few of the contests with the distinct feeling that it wasn't really worth the trouble. So either support the contest in the proper spirit, or ignore it. With all of the inherent problems holding one of these contests, eventually the negatives will cause people to stop holding them at all, and then no one wins. Isn't it better to have these contests available, and have a choice in participating?

Joanie

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irene_b

I agree! Support it or Ignore it!
And Yes I support a contest like this no matter who is involved!
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Vance Wood

Way to go Irene!

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bonsaial1

With all do respect Carmi, no one asked for an opinion. This was an informational post and was not really the place to start a discussion. People are lazy and do not go where the contest is and discuss there where the proper thread is available. What should have happened here is that the people from AofB should have inserted it into the calendar of events where it belonged. Now it is here and we have started WWIII and feelings are hurt and those that will enter still will, and those that have no trees worthy of this kind of event will continue to watch. So why all the fuss.

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carmi

And I thought that WW3 will be with Iran…

For a couple of years for personal reason I could not participate in this forum.

I do believe that people should express their opinion.

In the future, if at all, I will limit my self to uploading photos of my trees.

There are also limitation of understanding and expressing yourself in a foreign language.

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