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Thread CLOSED: The AoB NORTH AMERICA vs. EUROPE PHOTO CONTEST

 
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Old 8-Mar-2007   #31
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Interesting, they say that now days the whole world is "one village" and yet there are still differences of culture and mentality even between the same art people.
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Old 8-Mar-2007   #32
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To say that no vendors are involved is not true.I'm sure that this was an oversite,but if I read the rules correctly,Bonsai Today may have the right to publish these pictures.That should probably be mentioned up front when promoting the contest.I think this is a great idea.It'll be entertaining and a excellent opportunity to see some great bonsai.

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No vendor was involved in developing this idea, including Bonsai Today. Once the plan was laid out, we contacted potential sponsors. That's how Bonsai Today got involved.

Bonsai Today, just like other bonsai magazines, are continuously asking for new articles from everyone who is interested, including the members of the BonsaiTalk forum. Obviously, if the quality is there, this would make a great article. But writing an article was not the intent why we decided to organize this contest. As you know, the financial rewards of publishing an article are next to none.

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Old 8-Mar-2007   #33
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I understand all of that Atilla.I don't have a problem with it.Personally,I would be honored and thrilled if one of my trees was selected to be published.

Does Bonsai today have the automatic right to publish pictures submitted to AOB for this contest?Or,will seperate permission have to be granted?

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Old 8-Mar-2007   #34
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Just to complete my previous post...

I don't think that anyone of us at the AoB forum who are involved, will see a penny from this contest. Not a penny.

If tomorrow someone offered me a million dollars for it, I would take it, like any other guy. But I don't see it likely to happen.
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Old 8-Mar-2007   #35
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Hi Andy,

Here is the permissions and copyrights section from the AoB webpage. I highlighted the answer to your question.

PERMISSIONS AND COPYRIGHTS

As with all contest at the Art of Bonsai project, all copyrights remain with the author or photographer. For this contest we ask only for permission to use the text and photographs submitted at AoB for the contest threads and other contest related threads as well as for publication by the cosponsor of the contest, Bonsai Today magazine. We also ask for full permission to be given to Stone Lantern Publishing to publish the text and photographs submitted. Any other use will require permission to be granted by the author or photographer. By entering this contest you agree to the terms of use and give full permission for use of all text and photographs for publication by the Art of Bonsai project, Bonsai Today Magazine, and Stone lantern Publishing.


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~LOL~....I haven't seen anyone accuse anyone of profiteering Atilla. I think the AOB has obviously worked out a great working relationship with Bonsai Today.Nothing wrong with that.

It may make a difference though, to some people whether Bonsai today has obtained rights to publication by providing prizes.

edit to add.....ah...it seems we were posting at the same time.

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Old 8-Mar-2007   #37
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The idea is to gather the best of both, but you don't need me to tell you the rules, go to AoB and read them for yourselves.

To be honest the only rule I have read is the one posted at the beginning of this thread

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qualified judges who reside neither in North America or Europe.

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Does this mean that the entry pictures of these bonsai will be accepted as world class or not by those judges that reside neither in North America or Europe or by the editors and orginizers of the contest.
Mind you so far I have only asked questions. Well I did express one opinion but clearly stated that is was just my own opinion.
I did take the time to take a quick look at the link posted in the beginning of this thread. A partial quote of my words were there on AOB. The first part of an exchange but not the response. But that is ok. I am used to that. Happens a lot of times. Lots of different reasons it happens. Pity a lot of those different reasons come from the same source.
Be that as it may, I am only asking questions. If they are too tough or even inapproaite then let me know. Questions are the only way an old country boy like me can find out what is going on.
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The contest objective is for bonsai artists from North America and Europe to submit quality pictures of world class bonsai which will be judged and awarded points by qualified judges who reside neither in North America or Europe.
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Does this mean that the entry pictures of these bonsai will be accepted as world class or not by those judges that reside neither in North America or Europe or by the editors and orginizers of the contest[?]
Interesting point, Ron, and one which I had initially overlooked. Would such an International contest not be better judged by a neutral party like - say - Australia, or Israel?



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For those who are interested, suspicious and other-wise impaired concerning this contest there is the possibility that Japanese judges will be represented in the judging.
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For those who are interested, suspicious and other-wise impaired concerning this contest there is the possibility that Japanese judges will be represented in the judging.
This other wise impaired person thanks you for that bit of info. It does answer some of my questions.
Only one is left. Who judges what trees will be able to be submitted.
If possible can we put names to those making the decisions. Not a totally unreasonable request. Heck even on "Dancing with the stars" on tv one knows the answer to that question
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