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24-Jan-2008
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Dave O.
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Ming Arelaia (serrisa foetida)
Hi All!
On 12/26/07 I put a cutting that was about 6 months old in a bonsai pot with some "bonsai soil" . I keep it in the same room as its parent house plant. then tossed some oscote around the root ball. at one half the recomended strength and have been watering it only when tyhe serfacs looked dry to me. then the leves began wilting. not shure if im over watering it or what. im posting a befor and after for your inspection. please let me know what you think. |
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24-Jan-2008
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Your tree is a ming aralia, which is not a serissa foetida. It's possible you either over fertilized or underwatered. I'd try again.
How did the roots look, what kind of soil did you use? |
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25-Jan-2008
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Dave O.
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thank's for your input!
the soil came from a local dealer it apiers to have pine bark and a few other things. but it drains freely and doesnt seem to be too corse. as for the roots i was kinda hoping to save the plant. if i unpot it after so little time in its new envronment wont that stop any chance of success? I dont know maybe i should "start over".f Thanks Dave O. |
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25-Jan-2008
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bonsaiTALK Master
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This is a tropical plant , aralia elegantissima, which is supposedly used as a shrub in south asia and micronesia.
The question is, how much root was there on this cutting when you put it in the pot? If there wasn't alot there may not be enough to sustain the whole plant. You will need to look at the root structure now. There are several possibilities: the soil is not retaining enough moisture, the roots have rotted by either being attacked by some soil parasite, or overwatering. Also, the root system may not be sufficient enough at this to support the top and stem. So one of several things could be the problem, and the only way to tell is to inspect the roots. Could you very carefully remove the plant from soil and take a picture of the root sysem against a light background and add it to this thread?
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25-Jan-2008
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Dave O.
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thank's for your intrest.
here are the pix.the root ball was alittle biger at potting time and the soil seemed pretty wet so im thinking root rot.I know the the perent plant likes it kinda dry. but im hoping you know more than me. thanks Dave O. |
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25-Jan-2008
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Root rot can be accompanied by a strong smell of mushrooms coming from them or the soil. Are any of them mushy and/or turning black?
If you suspect the roots are weak in any way, go easy on the fertilisers.
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25-Jan-2008
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It may be possible to save this one but IMO, it's already too far gone. Take it as a lesson learned and do better next time.
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25-Jan-2008
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The roots appear mushy and dead in the photo. I'd chalk this one up to experience and move on.
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29-Jan-2008
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Hello from Barcelona,
I personally think that you should have protected your Aralia, once re-potted, with some kind of plastic or crystal bell in order to create a humid micro-clima and evitate humidity loose because of the plant transpiration itself. That's what I would have done with such variety of plant, because of the dry air conditions indoor. Another think I wouldn't have done is feed your plant. I personally think it was too soon for your plant and, specially, for the recently "deranged" roots. Galceran. P.S. I hope my english is good enough for being understood. I really try to do my best!
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29-Jan-2008
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First off, Aralia are not in need of a lot of water, so the chance that you overwatered is likely.
They are almost too easy to do from cuttings so if you remove all foliage you could use it as you would a cutting. Trim the roots back to where there is no sign of rot. Put it into a pot of either bonsai soil or aged pine bark. Keep damp and wait for new growth. I have done this many times, it works. Good luck, Hector
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