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Old 6-Feb-2008   #1
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Indoor Ficus And Juniper

I was reading some of the posts and it is very obvious that most people are all agree that bonsai trees just don't do well indoors. I have two trees, a Ficus Benjamina and a Juniper. Both in small training pots, the ficus I have had since late October and the juniper I purchased about a month ago. I spray the plants at least twice a day to keep up humidity and always make sure they get at least 8 hours of sunlight at my window. I know these plants are meant to be outside (or in a greenhouse) but unfortunately I live in northern Canada and am almost positive a tropical ficus wouldn't last more than five seconds out side in -25 degrees Celsius weather. What can I do, should I take them outside when the weather heats up around April or may or will they most likely be dead by then?
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Old 6-Feb-2008   #2
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The ficus will be fine, they are often kept as houseplants. They ARE a tropical, and don't do well in temperatures below 50f. (10c, for the rest of the world) Keeping it inside or in a warm greenhouse is pretty much essential in your winters.

The Juniper, on the other hand, should NOT be inside... but... it has not been properly acclimated to your winter, so dropping it outside would probably be the kiss of death at this point. Keep it going until spring, then stick it outside, then find someone in your area who can give you some pointers on how to prepare it for winter next year. Since my winter prep consists of moving my trees out of the mudpuddle of my front yard, I'm not going to even try to give you hints that way!

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Old 6-Feb-2008   #3
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Skater - what weeble said is good advise, this will give you time to look into over wintering your juniper outside, and set up the ficus for winter inside.
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Old 7-Feb-2008   #4
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yeah it is all said that junipers are STRICTLY indoor plants

theres a few plants that can tolerate the indoor environment... ficus being one of them.

i was never game to bring my juniper inside, but it is also stated that junipers can be brought inside 2 days a month or so...............
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You have to be carefull about bringing them in, when warmed past 40 degreees the roots wake up, with another freeze you can get into problems. I suggest once put up for overwintering keep it dormant until frost / freeze issues are past.
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What exactly is meant by keeping it dormant? Do you mean keep it inside until frost issues are not a problem anymore?
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Dormant means the plant is asleep. There's no growth, and deciduous trees drop their leaves when they go dormant.

I don't usually ever bring my junipers in, I put them in a unheated garage for the night. It doesn't get very cold in my area, but I still like to take the extra precaution. Of course, in your situation, a garage still might be too cold.

Like everyone else said, ficus can be kept indoors, but the juniper can't.
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Oh I understand, so I should keep my juniper dormant by putting it somewhere were it is a bit below 40 degrees until it is warm enough to keep out side?
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Old 10-Feb-2008   #9
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many trees can actually be grown indoors, such as the juniper, provided they "HAVE WHAT THEY NEED". this consists of light, temp, humidity and nurishment. DONOT put a juniper in a window! this is the fastest way to kill it. the thermal dynamics near a widow can be VERY bad. The hot dry air from heaters is drawn across the surface of cold windows and as a result can dry and kill a junipers foliage. durring the summer, a window can act like a magnifying glass and fry your tree.

Your simple solution - get a 4 foot 2-bulb florecent strip, 6500k full sepectrom bulbs and a timer.this will produce 4200 lumen of light at about 2-6 inches fom the top of the trees. the juniper will still need to go dorment but you can grow several smaller trees this way. if you want more power go with T-5 florecent. A 4 foot 4-bulb fixture will produce 20,000 lumen of light at about 6-12 inches from the plants
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Old 24-Feb-2008   #10
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Or if you want real light output may I suggest a 430w high pressure sodium fixture on a light mover and set to a timer for fourteen hours of light?

Just kidding. I've been growing tropicals indoors for fifteen years and that's what I actually use. All trees can thrive and push growth indoors. It just depends on what you're willing to put into it. My set up isn't cheap to buy or run.

Nevertheless, I made the mistake of bringing my crabapple indoors because the temps were dropping below freezing. It budded in two days and then bloomed in a week.

Anything can be grown indoors and anything can thrive indoors. The chief problems with indoor growing is humidity and light. Your house is dry, very very very dry. There is no substitue for a humidifier. Spraying doesn't get the job done. A desert is 20-30% realtive humidity. In the winter my house is 15-18%. A spray bottle won't fix that.

And light. Flourescents work fine, especially the T5s mentioned above if you have enough of them. I use T5s in my office where I also display trees from time to time. T5s have a nicer profile and that pass for a decorative light. Regular shoplight flourescents don't push near the same lumens as T5s and in order to compensate, you need several of them to do it right, like 6-8 of them. That's a lot and their ugly hanging in your house.

The truth is that most people try to grow indoors under a shop light or two, never humidify their trees and put their trees near drafty windows. Then when they fail or their trees suffer horribly, they (surprisingly) claim it can't be done. Utter hogwash.

Yes, it can. It just takes a little thought and persistence.

I will admit. All my tropicals are placed outdoors when the temps are consistently above 50F. But, they typically don't suffer a bit overwinter. I am constantly trimming new growth over the winter months.

I grow several varieties of ficus as well. And when it gets really cold I bring my junipers indoors and set them on the floor where the temps hover around 55F in the sunroom.

I will, however, also admit I need a better set up for overwintering outdoor trees because I really need a cold frame to do it right. Instead, I'm constantly balancing between too cold outside and too warm inside. I don't have a garage or basement either.

I suspect you will have the same problem growing junipers where you are because your junipers will need a dormancy period and it is going to b too cold outside in your area.
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