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Chinese Elm, Sub-Tropical to Temperate

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Old 19-Mar-2008   #1
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Chinese Elm, Sub-Tropical to Temperate

I have been practicing bonsai for 5 almost 6 years, but in the comfort of Florida's sub-tropical climate. I am moving up to Minnesota this early summer and I want to slowly start bringing my collection with me.

I have 3 Chinese elms that I absolutely adore and I want to do what's best for their future health. I was thinking of developing the trees as outdoor specimen but is it too dangerous? I know the sudden change of climate, South Florida to Minnesota, is quite drastic but I have always had issues with growing bonsai indoors and plan to be staying in Minnesota for a while.

My main questions are:
  1. Can I train a Chinese elm that has been growing in a sub-tropical climate to grow and go dormant in a temperate climate? If I can what do I need to do to prepare the trees.
  2. If I can't, what would be a good indoor setup and what are the care guide lines? I have access to a basement storage room that has 2 small windows that get adequate light, 2 electric outlets, and the area stays rather dry during the winter with temperatures staying above 45 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Old 19-Mar-2008   #2
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Elms really like to go dormant during the winter. I would think that you would be ok with moving your elms in mid summer; this will give them plenty of time to acclimate to the seasons there in the far north. You probably will have to winterize them when the temp goes to sub-freezing. http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/elm.html

Check with a local club after (and maybe before) you get there.

http://www.absbonsai.org/USAClubs.html

Ugh, going from 1 extreme to another. Just be glad you’re not doing in mid winter!

When I move to South Texas from Silly-con valley in '94, I snuck out several trees and brought them here in the middle of July, needless to say I lost a few the 1st few weeks, they got BAKED! But I went from cool weather to very, very HOT. This is just to opposite from what you are doing.

Good luck with your move, redhawk
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We grow em in the snow up here, Minn is a bit more drastic I believe, look for info on overwintering. A cold frame will probably do the trick, wind protection is key.
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Does a cold frame have to have sunlight? There is a shed in the back with no windows.
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Well I live in Michigan and the only chinese elm that I left outside in my unheated shed died. Since then I leave them out for a few light frosts (need to keep a close eye on the weather) if it is to get below 25F bring it in for that night. Once the tree losses it's leaves then bring it inside and grow under regular flourescent lights, just keep within 2-4 inches of the top of the tree. People often say that trees need a certain amount of dormant time and I find that the trees regulate that by themselves (I have several that have already been cut back twice indoors and one that still has not leafed out; it is still green cambium though). Just my experience.

The exception: cork bark variety that I got from a local nursery; it was already growing in a pot in this zone so I did not worry about it. It is doing fine although I have not reduced the roots. I have another cork bark that is in a bonsai pot and it does fine with the method above.


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