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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Southern Caleefornia
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I think the resistance is in the calling of it bonsai. We have a well established model of what bonsai is.
maybe a cool translation of the word, like penjing, ho non bo, or a made up word like mambonsai ,mallsai, potentsai, boneseye hey i got one... "bullseye"
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Dec-2004
Location: Southern Caleefornia
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"thaisai"
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pup you are another one i have alot of respect for, but the ancient literatis and artisans of china who started penjin would be horrified at us suggesting that these are even remotely related.
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bend me twist me
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how about tope thai sai
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
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"...They are Penjing in its crudest form. Remembering that Penjing was the mother of Bonsai…”.
Thansk Pup... Pat
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BONSAI isn't about surviving in a storm, rather, how to dance in the rain. THE ONLY WAY: Always remember, and don't ever forget, that whatever you read here is not cast in concrete... the intent of any advice is to help. In no way should you feel that I’m saying that my way is the only way…heaven forbid! I've seen far too much of the "my way or the highway" attitude in bonsai as well as in other areas of life. Pat Patterson...Bonsai in the Greater Bay Area, Northern California
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
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G'day Antonio...
Respect goes both ways, my friend. Back atcha... However, with this one, ”…call it plant art if you like but not bonsai…”, I disagree. Maybe we can call it "pre-Penjing"? I am not a purist...do it this way, because it's always been done that way. On the flip side, I do have respect for our "roots"...Japan...China...Thai...whatever... Did I say that? "...I do have respect for our "roots"...". Pat
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BONSAI isn't about surviving in a storm, rather, how to dance in the rain. THE ONLY WAY: Always remember, and don't ever forget, that whatever you read here is not cast in concrete... the intent of any advice is to help. In no way should you feel that I’m saying that my way is the only way…heaven forbid! I've seen far too much of the "my way or the highway" attitude in bonsai as well as in other areas of life. Pat Patterson...Bonsai in the Greater Bay Area, Northern California
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
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"...there is guys
There you go, Antonio. Pat
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BONSAI isn't about surviving in a storm, rather, how to dance in the rain. THE ONLY WAY: Always remember, and don't ever forget, that whatever you read here is not cast in concrete... the intent of any advice is to help. In no way should you feel that I’m saying that my way is the only way…heaven forbid! I've seen far too much of the "my way or the highway" attitude in bonsai as well as in other areas of life. Pat Patterson...Bonsai in the Greater Bay Area, Northern California
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bend me twist me
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its all good pat and not for one minute do i doubt uncle thong's passion and ability. nor am i a purist but i do greatly believe in the discipline.
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You will note Antonio I said CRUDEST form. There are a lot of pictures posted here that, are Penjing, but people insist on calling them Bonsai.
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bend me twist me
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point taken pup
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