How do you read cold temps/ - bonsaiTALK Community

19-Jan-2007	#1
Sagicap bonsaiTALK Neophyte Join Date: May-2005 Location: Norfolk,Virginia Country: USA USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: 7 Posts: 7	How do you read cold temps/ I bring my trees inside my apt from my terrace when the temp is supposed to be 32degrees or lower. I am now concerned that when the weather is 32 the wind chill can be 27. Is the actual temp 32 or 27. Are my trees safe when the wind chill below 32.--Thanx

Sponsor Message	How do you read cold temps/
Advertisement Forum Sponsor	<a href='http://adserver.bonsaitalk.com/adclick.php?n=ac8bc944' target='_blank'><img src='http://adserver.bonsaitalk.com/adview.php?what=zone:4&n=ac8bc944' border='0' alt=''></a>

19-Jan-2007	#2
I.B. bonsaiTALK Artisan Join Date: May-2004 Location: Rochester, NY Country: U.S.A. Posts: 137	The wind chill factor only affects skin (not sure if human or animal or both) and not the plants. Bill __________________ William N. Valavanis

19-Jan-2007	#3
rockm bonsaiTALK ArchMaster Join Date: Oct-2003 Location: Fairfax, Va Country: USA USDA Zone: 7 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 4,561	Wind chill is not a factor. However, wind dries out plant tissues rather quickly--especially when the soil is frozen, since the plant cannot take up moisture from its roots to replace that lost from the top. Keep them sheltered from the wind.

19-Jan-2007	#4
Dav4 bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: Jan-2005 Location: SE Massachusetts Country: USA USDA Zone: 6 AHS Heat Zone: 4-5 Posts: 613	What species of trees do you have? Temperate trees should remain outside year round, even with freezing temps.Dave

19-Jan-2007

Sagicap

bonsaiTALK Neophyte

Join Date: May-2005

Location: Norfolk,Virginia

Country: USA

Posts: 7

Cold temps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dav4

What species of trees do you have? Temperate trees should remain outside year round, even with freezing temps.Dave

I have Junipers, white and black pines and elms. The temp last night was in the 30s but the wind chill was in the 20s

20-Jan-2007	#6
Dav4 bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: Jan-2005 Location: SE Massachusetts Country: USA USDA Zone: 6 AHS Heat Zone: 4-5 Posts: 613	They should stay out/never be brought indoors. They need cold weather to stay healthy. You only weaken them by bringing them inside. Dave

20-Jan-2007	#7
Jay YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME Join Date: Sep-2001 Location: Jeffersonville Vt Country: USA USDA Zone: 4 AHS Heat Zone: 3 Posts: 2,154	OK, there is inside and then there is INSIDE. What I mean by this is that you should not be bringing those trees in your house! The one exception is if you are doing it for a very short time, to either work on them for the day or to show them off for a day or two. If you will be winter storing them in an unheated garage, 3 season room, cold frame or the like this is totally acceptable. Up here in Vermont some of us actually pay to have our trees in a heated greenhouse for the winter. OK, the greenhouse is heated to around 32F so it is just keeping the trees inside from experiencing the cold (minus 20's) that this area is famous for. But getting back to the original question...as Bill said the true temps are all that a tree can feel. Jay __________________ A Bonsai student living with his trees at N 44.37 W 77.49... Think before you act... then think again... no good comes from rushing

20-Jan-2007	#8
xerophyte_nyc bonsaiTALK Journeyman Join Date: Dec-2006 Location: NY Country: USA USDA Zone: 7 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 23	Important! Caution: A plant's cold-hardiness is not the same when it is in a pot, without the Earth to maintain soil temp stability.

20-Jan-2007	#9
Dav4 bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: Jan-2005 Location: SE Massachusetts Country: USA USDA Zone: 6 AHS Heat Zone: 4-5 Posts: 613	Jay's right on. There are times when it's ok to bring your trees indoors for very short periods. As far as overwintering them in your zone, which I will guess is a USDA 7-8, they will easily tolerate the coldest temps winter can throw at them, and taking them inside to avoid that cold is counterproductive and even harmful. Dave

20-Jan-2007	#10
Sagicap bonsaiTALK Neophyte Join Date: May-2005 Location: Norfolk,Virginia Country: USA USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: 7 Posts: 7	winter temps Thanx for the info-I bring them in for about 10 hours then place them back outside. I am glad to hear that trees don't feel wind chill and are only susceptible to actual temps. I hope that the brief period that I do bring them in when temps are below 32degrees wont damage them. Last year I brought in my elms often because they were the most fragile and they was in full bloom in Feb. I have noticed that winds dry out my trees rapidly and water more frequently.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Cold, Cold in SO CAL	robert1955	General	12	22-Dec-2006 09:37 PM
How cold is "protect from frost"?	Sandi	Overwintering (archive)	7	19-Dec-2005 09:39 AM
Warm And Cold Stratify ?	Camay123	Propagation	6	16-May-2004 10:10 AM
The Wait... The Cold... The Damage...	Jay	Bonsai Tips & Techniques	7	28-Jan-2003 06:03 AM
How Well Do Bonsai's Tolerate Winter Temps?		Overwintering (archive)	4	31-Jan-2002 07:51 PM

	Thread Tools	Display Modes
bonsaiTALK Hint: Did you know you can double click any bonsai term on this page for its definition?