hinoki???

Vance Wood

I look forward to seeing them.

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hortriot

hi vance,

first i have to put some oil on the heaters fan, the squeaking is driving me crazy,
then im puttin on my woolens and braving the cold, pics are next.

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hortriot

here it is at last, (that heater really was a problem).

i decided not to go too silly on tearing up the whole rootball to expose the butt of the trunk so i settled on finding a soft spot and exposing a side of it.
the plant tags are there for highlight and the trunk is a little fatter than the battery (i hope aa size batterys are the same size in the u.s.a.).

if you need more photos i will post them but i will be in the countryside all week so they won't be up untill next weekend.

cheerio

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DavidN

Hi hortriot
Earlier this month at our club meeting three of our members worked on conifers in terms of trimming and wiring. Repotting is not recommended at this time of year but our most experienced member said that he works on all his conifers at this time of year in terms of trimming and wiring. If you don't believe me have a look at our clubs website http://www.bonsainorthwest.com.au and go to the May 2006 - triple demonstration.

I know with hinoki it is extremely difficult to get them to bud back so continued pinching is required to keep inner branches healthy.

BTW Melbourne has one of the best climates for growing all types of trees for bonsai. We don't have to worry about severe frosts and winter protection and only need to be careful in summer of leaf burn on decidious trees.

Good luck.

David

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bonsaial1

Cold is not a problem with this species. In fact they tolorate freezing quite well. The larger problem is more with heat. What are your summers like? Prolonged weeks over 85 degrees will be slow death.It may take three or four years, but you will lose a branch one year, then another till all that is left is a nice bleached skeleton.

Might save for tanuki though

Cheers, Al

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Vance Wood

That's only true if you don't take precautions to prevent the pots from becoming too hot. Hinokis do well in partial shade and will tolerate full shade for a prolonged amount of time. But the real key is making sure the pots don't get so hot they cook the roots. We have summers here in Michigan that have temperatures in the 80's and 90's from the middle of June through early September. I have had the same Hinoki for fifteen years and it is doing fine.

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bonsaial1

Thanks Vance. Up untill I posted the thread only talked about winter temps, which this northern latitude type plant will do great in. I only brought up the heat factor due to no one talking about it. He has more chance of losing a Hinoki due to heat than due to cold. As of yet we still do not know what his mean summer prolonged temps are.

My summers are closer to Hell than Michigan, so there you have it...My Hinoki's have all said: "check please"

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DavidN

I looked up the mean daily temps over our summer months and they are only around 26C ~ 79F. However this really doesn't sound right to me. Usually in a week we would get 3-4 days well over 30C ~86F. For example, just this years new year's day we had a stretch of 3-4 days over the 40C ~ 104F. I have seen hinoki's behave similar to what you have stated Al.

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bonsaial1

Some things to remember about bonsai.

Is the person giving the advice retired?
Is the person anal about their bonsai?
Is the person a type that waters each tree two times a day just because they have the time?
Do they have a misting system?

Without doing a lot of work or spending alot of money, I do not have the means to keep my pots cool when the temps are prolonged sometime for months at a time over 100 degrees. I just keep species that can take the weather here, which means I should belong to the cactus society

If I were retired, My collection would be pinched. It would not have weeds. I could keep all the pots cool. I could carve on many california junipers anytime I wanted.

Lets here it for the retired guys, You've earned it!
ak

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