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31-Oct-2001
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Is bonsai cruel to trees?
There is a popular myth that bonsai are tortured plants subjected to cruel and unusual treatment and they cling to life.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Bonsai are pampered by their owners and given better daily care than many folks offer their pets. Some folks see trees that have been painstakingly cultivated to provoke the illusion of a tree growing in nature, and they believe somehow that the plant has been mistreated in some way. Many of the same people who advance this myth wouldn't think twice about mowing their lawn flat every week, trimming hedges into box shapes or yanking weeds from the garden by their roots, yet they point to the bonsai practitioners as the cruel ones!
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2-Apr-2002
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Re: Is bonsai cruel to trees?
Is bonsai cruel? What do you think?
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10-Jul-2002
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Allthough this may sound a good question because it is frequently asked, I think this is the most silly question on bonsai.
Off course, everybody knows that there are so many bonsai-ka's in the world, and there are so many diffirent qualities among them (like there are good and bad people in every nation). The good bonsai-ka at least try at their best not to be cruel to the trees under their hands. They will always "listen" to what the tree tells by examining the tree and get as many info as possible about the sort. With this bagage they will transform the pre-bonsai to a quality bonsai, without torturing them. The bad bonsai-ka do'nt listen to the tree (im)possiblities and try to satisfy their own needs by sometimes doing some kind of mission impossible things to their tree. |
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10-Jul-2002
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I dont think bonsai is cruel to trees if a bonsai tree can live much longer in a bonsai pot than it could if it lived in the ground. In bonsai we take care of our trees to live the strongest and most healthy life they could live.
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16-Jul-2002
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Let us look at ourself. How many little trees have gone to bonsai heaven under your hand ? If you are a serious bonsai-ka, the number will not be zero. That is because doing bonsai is a big journey, a great experiment, a never ending search to the most beautifull bonsai. Despite of gentle words about how good we take care of our bonsai, I have to admit that sometimes I made a mistake and kill a little tree. Come on, be honest..... At that point we are cruel to the tree because if we don't touch them they will still alive. Be realistic.....
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16-Jul-2002
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Perhaps the right question is not "is bonsai cruel to trees?", but rather "Is bonsai more cruel to trees than ____?"
I don't know what a bonsai-ka is, but I do know that if you fill in the blank with "nature," "container gardening," or anything else think of, the answer is a firm "no". Yes, trees die when we practice bonsai. But compare the fraction that dies to the fraction of seedlings that die in a forest each year - not to a some ideal of zero.
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16-Jul-2002
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If bonsai is cruel to trees, then:
Rock gardening is cruel to rocks, Landscaping is cruel to plants and grass, Fish keeping is cruel to fish. It's all silly, and there are bigger issues in the world then my serrissa's civil rights. |
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31-Dec-2002
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A Bonsai-Ka is a practitioner of Bonsai. It's a japanese term, like a Karate-Ka is a student of karate.
Interestingly enough in a north Indian language Ka is a possessive. So a Bonsai Ka would belong to Bonsai or a Karate Ka to Karate. <silent contemplation>
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31-Dec-2002
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One might also ask, " Are manicurists cruel to finger nails?"
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31-Dec-2002
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I don't know about cruel manicurists, but I caught a hairdresser teasing my wife's hair once!
 Kindai Shuppan Bonsai magazine frequently uses the phrase bonsai aikoka (aikouka) for "bonsai lover,"  but the dictionary here shows also aikosha (aikousha) for enthusiast/fan/devotee.I guess it depends on how fanatical you are! Regards, Matt
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