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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Jul-2002
Location: South Central Lousiana
Country: United States
USDA Zone: 8-9
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Dumb Question About Leaf Size
I have a dumb question about leaf size that i cant wait till spring to find out....
If I reduce the leaf size on a tree, the next spring when they come back are they normal size or are they still reduced?
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Well it depends on exactly what you did to reduce the leaf size. In bonsai, several things combine to dwarf the leaves. Growing trees in small pots keep the roots restricted and slightly root bound which slows the growth and creates smaller leaves than on a full size tree.
Second, plenty of bright sun light will help to keep the leaves smaller. Plants grown in low light tend to grow oversize leaves. To make up for what they lack in light intensity they will grow large solar collectors=large leaves. Third, when you create foliage pads with short internodes and alot of ramification of the secondary and tertiary branches you will get many fine twiggy branches that tend to support only smaller leaves. All these things combine together to keep leaves smaller than they normally would be. I'm sure you were looking for a yes or no answer but like most things in bonsai it depends. Tony |
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YOU CAN NOT RUSH TIME
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In addition to Tony's points, leaf size reduction is not something to worry about until your tree is getting near the point of show. It can occur by the facts Tony listed, but to defoliate for leaf reduction should wait. I remember reading, numerous times, that you work on the leaf size last!
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bonsaiTALK Master
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Hay thanks alot. Thats some good advice to wait until I am ready for small leaves before I try to reduce them. Ok I will start waiting to reduce leaf size until my tree is properly shaped.
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Mr. Kristopher
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Correct me if I am wrong, as I beleive I have read this once, however one person from another forum emailed me this long nasty letter saying how he had been in contact with several of the masters beofre and they had never mentioned it and that I was wrong, and should not post such lies...
Anyway, my addition would be copper wire. The copper poisons the plant ever so slightly causing some dwarfing, while the other factors may be of more cause, this I heard will do it to, aluminim does not do this. Now if you think about it, it even sounds like it should be correct, but like I said, I really got chewed out...
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bonsaiTALK Master
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ok heres your big ole nasty long letter.
anythings possable
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Please Correct Your Email Address
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I have read the same thing about copper wire, but only has a little effect [from what the books say] , it does make sense.
You should worry about leaf size last, after roots, trunk,and branches. The tree needs to put the energy into these areas that you are working on. Leaves are needed to grow as they may as are branches to thicken up a trunk . Then the same to thicken up branches. Then worry about leaf size. Lets keep this place fun. Jeff
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