bonsaiTALK Home Page  

Go Back   bonsaiTALK Community > Ask the Bonsai Doctor > Bonsai Tips & Techniques
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Forum Gallery Weather Journals Links Webring Wiki NEW:Shop
Articles Opinion T.O.D. NEW:Radio Contests Humor NEW: Auctions! Donate


Desert Rose... How to make her shine???

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
bonsaiTALK Hint: Did you know you can double click any bonsai term on this page for its definition?
Old 2-Sep-2006   #1
Spiderling
bonsaiTALK Neophyte
 
Join Date: Sep-2006
Location: Québec
Country: Canada
Posts: 6
Click Here to Skype Spiderling
Bug Desert Rose... How to make her shine???

Hi everyone in here,

Its my first post actually, after having read a lot of everybody's advices and tips on many catagories of the forum. So I hope I'll get answers

I've bought a four inch high Desert Rose (which I think must be about 2 or 3 years old at least, judging from the size of its main root : 2 inch diameter max / 2.5 inch long) and I have questions to you experts!!

1 - Those who know that tree lookin plant, what special care should I give her?

2 - Repotting in fall, was it an error?

3 - From the root parts I pruned and planted near her, will I get some new Desert Rose babies ? Or would I have more chance at pruning its main branch and planting it nearby??

4 - Finally (yes I got lots of questions) A mix of high draining soil and fertalised plant soil, is it a good idea?

Thanks in advance for any help I may get, I really want to make her shine next summer!!!

Spiderling
Spiderling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsor Message Desert Rose... How to make her shine???
Advertisement
Forum Sponsor
Old 2-Sep-2006   #2
susieq
Intermediate
 
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Hudson, FL
Country: USA
Posts: 487
Desert Rose

Greetings Spiderling,
I read posts of people discussing desert rose as a bonsai but never tried to keep one as a bonsai myself. I have two large ones that were given to me as seedlings about two years ago. They get huge. Their trunks at the base get very very thick, almost bulbus. This doesn't happen with cuttings, or so I am told....only those grown from seed get the outrageous bases on them.

Yes to well draining soil mix, as too wet would be a disaster. Though not as touchy in that area as a Jade plant, they are still sort considered a suculent and overwatering will rot them in a hurry. You can take cutting from them pretty easily. I don't know about root cuttings. They are not fussy feeders, just some time release granules such as osmacote or a water soluable like Peters ( not too strong) would be fine. I think they are pretty forgiving plants but I would work on them mostly during the growing season.....especially since you are in Canada......pretty far north for a desert rose.

I don't know how small you want to try to keep it, but I can't picture it branching much if you try to keep it tiny. Also, bonsai don't have to be very tiny. Most of them are not tiny, some are even 4 or 5 feet tall.
The flower will be large no matter what you do. You can reduce the leaves but not the flowers or fruit of plants. It would look rather odd as a very tiny plant with a large flower on it.....just some things to think about. Oh, and just in case you didn't know, dersert rose is poison. So be careful and wash your hands after working with it. Watch your pets/kids around it.
Much success with your tree.....
susieq
susieq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2-Sep-2006   #3
Spiderling
bonsaiTALK Neophyte
 
Join Date: Sep-2006
Location: Québec
Country: Canada
Posts: 6
Click Here to Skype Spiderling
Thanks

Thanks alot for the tips, I was actually thinking about making her grow very big, I read they could get to be 3 or 4 feet tall in wilderness, would be damn fun to try that!!

Thanks again.. Bye
Spiderling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-Oct-2006   #4
jon
bonsaiTALK Neophyte
 
Join Date: Oct-2006
Country: U.S.A
Posts: 2
Click Here to Skype jon
I have a desert rose under a flourescent light and the tips of some of the leaves have started to turn yellow and brown. Am I watering too much? too little? Anyone?
jon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-Oct-2006   #5
3069James
bonsaiTALK Craftsman
 
Join Date: Nov-2005
Location: nw oh.
Posts: 84
desert roses do go dormant normally later in the year though water when dry here's a link http://www.tropicanursery.com/adenium/problems.htm
3069James is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-Oct-2006   #6
jon
bonsaiTALK Neophyte
 
Join Date: Oct-2006
Country: U.S.A
Posts: 2
Click Here to Skype jon
Thank you for the link, I have just recently repotted as well, maybe the cause is root rot- I don't know. Non of the pictures looked like my leaf discoloration, but time will tell. Drmancy occurs around this time, what does that mean? I assume it won't flower until the spring, will the leaves fall out? should i water less? My thumb isn't quite green yet so I am learning as i go, and unfortunatly I am learning by failure some of the time. If anyone has any advice on the desert rose, money tree, or hawaiin umbrella plant, or Jade please let me know. Thank you - Jon
jon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-Oct-2006   #7
waltseed
bonsaiTALK Expert
 
Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Ellsworth
Country: USA
Posts: 187
Mostly I just lurk and learn here. But for once I can give back.
I have grown adeniums, or desert roses, for a few years, and have started to import seeds. 900 seeds arrived from Taiwan just last night.
Final size? The first one I saw when I was in the Peace Corps in Niger, in 1978. It was about 2 meters tall, and it was a meter wide coming out of the ground.
There are several species, or subspecies by one taxonomist. They range from about 60 cm to well over 3 m. mature size, depending on species.
One species blooms during it's dormant season, with no leaves. Then no flowers when it has leaves. But most bloom during the spring, summer, and/or fall, depending on which species went into it. Some modern hybrids bloom year round.
Once the seedlings are well started, they do best for me in pure sifted 1/4 inch Hadite. It is a nice and open, water runs right through it. I water daily in the summer, monthly in the winter. Mine winter in a cool dark closet, because it is where I have room. They would be just as happy sitting in a window if I had the space. They must not freeze, and rally shouldn't get much below 10 C.
One species will try to be dormant 9 months out of the year. Modern hybrids can stay in growth nearly year round, and bloom year round.
While the ancestors of domestic adeniums are desert plants, they are now being produced in India under monsoon conditions. Drainage must be perfect of course.
As for pruining, they may become tall and stringy without pruning. Prune by just clicing off what you don't want, with a sharp knife. It stimulates branching. Dip the prunings in rooting hormone adn let the cut ends dry for a week or more. Then stick it in your potting mix and water once in a while. They may root with no other care. They may not. I am starting to think some adeniums just root better than others.
Cutting grown plants may or may not grow the swollen caudex of seedlings. Some cultivars do, some don't . They do take a few years of good growth to form caudexes if they are going to. Either way, they can make fat roots which can be mistaken for caudexes.
The caudex of any adenium can be acentuated by lifting the plant about an inch every year to expose more of the caudex and swollen roots.
They are lovely plants, but I don't concider them good for bonsai. Their finest twigs are too coarse. Their leaves don't reduce, or haven't for me. There are some dwarf varieties which are nice. Some grow them with bonsai.
Some do look good in bonsia pots.
__________________
Waltseed
waltseed is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
is desert rose a good starter tree avonly_unicorn General 14 28-Aug-2006 01:33 PM
Desert Rose bass Show & Tell 10 28-May-2006 09:03 AM
Trident Maple? Desert Rose? Stu General 2 28-Mar-2005 06:29 AM
Desert Rose - First Flower Chris M. Show & Tell 5 22-Apr-2004 02:48 PM


All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin v3.6.5
Copyright ©2000-2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8