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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Hi everyone in here,
Its my first post actually, after having read a lot of everybody's advices and tips on many catagories of the forum. So I hope I'll get answers I've bought a four inch high Desert Rose (which I think must be about 2 or 3 years old at least, judging from the size of its main root : 2 inch diameter max / 2.5 inch long) and I have questions to you experts!! 1 - Those who know that tree lookin plant, what special care should I give her? 2 - Repotting in fall, was it an error? 3 - From the root parts I pruned and planted near her, will I get some new Desert Rose babies ? Or would I have more chance at pruning its main branch and planting it nearby??4 - Finally (yes I got lots of questions) A mix of high draining soil and fertalised plant soil, is it a good idea? Thanks in advance for any help I may get, I really want to make her shine next summer!!! Spiderling ![]() |
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Intermediate
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: Hudson, FL
Country: USA
Posts: 487
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Desert Rose
Greetings Spiderling,
I read posts of people discussing desert rose as a bonsai but never tried to keep one as a bonsai myself. I have two large ones that were given to me as seedlings about two years ago. They get huge. Their trunks at the base get very very thick, almost bulbus. This doesn't happen with cuttings, or so I am told....only those grown from seed get the outrageous bases on them. Yes to well draining soil mix, as too wet would be a disaster. Though not as touchy in that area as a Jade plant, they are still sort considered a suculent and overwatering will rot them in a hurry. You can take cutting from them pretty easily. I don't know about root cuttings. They are not fussy feeders, just some time release granules such as osmacote or a water soluable like Peters ( not too strong) would be fine. I think they are pretty forgiving plants but I would work on them mostly during the growing season.....especially since you are in Canada......pretty far north for a desert rose. I don't know how small you want to try to keep it, but I can't picture it branching much if you try to keep it tiny. Also, bonsai don't have to be very tiny. Most of them are not tiny, some are even 4 or 5 feet tall. The flower will be large no matter what you do. You can reduce the leaves but not the flowers or fruit of plants. It would look rather odd as a very tiny plant with a large flower on it.....just some things to think about. Oh, and just in case you didn't know, dersert rose is poison. So be careful and wash your hands after working with it. Watch your pets/kids around it. Much success with your tree..... susieq |
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Thanks
Thanks alot for the tips, I was actually thinking about making her grow very big, I read they could get to be 3 or 4 feet tall in wilderness, would be damn fun to try that!!
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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I have a desert rose under a flourescent light and the tips of some of the leaves have started to turn yellow and brown. Am I watering too much? too little? Anyone?
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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desert roses do go dormant normally later in the year though water when dry here's a link http://www.tropicanursery.com/adenium/problems.htm
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Thank you for the link, I have just recently repotted as well, maybe the cause is root rot- I don't know. Non of the pictures looked like my leaf discoloration, but time will tell. Drmancy occurs around this time, what does that mean? I assume it won't flower until the spring, will the leaves fall out? should i water less? My thumb isn't quite green yet so I am learning as i go, and unfortunatly I am learning by failure some of the time. If anyone has any advice on the desert rose, money tree, or hawaiin umbrella plant, or Jade please let me know. Thank you - Jon
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bonsaiTALK Expert
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Mostly I just lurk and learn here. But for once I can give back.
I have grown adeniums, or desert roses, for a few years, and have started to import seeds. 900 seeds arrived from Taiwan just last night. Final size? The first one I saw when I was in the Peace Corps in Niger, in 1978. It was about 2 meters tall, and it was a meter wide coming out of the ground. There are several species, or subspecies by one taxonomist. They range from about 60 cm to well over 3 m. mature size, depending on species. One species blooms during it's dormant season, with no leaves. Then no flowers when it has leaves. But most bloom during the spring, summer, and/or fall, depending on which species went into it. Some modern hybrids bloom year round. Once the seedlings are well started, they do best for me in pure sifted 1/4 inch Hadite. It is a nice and open, water runs right through it. I water daily in the summer, monthly in the winter. Mine winter in a cool dark closet, because it is where I have room. They would be just as happy sitting in a window if I had the space. They must not freeze, and rally shouldn't get much below 10 C. One species will try to be dormant 9 months out of the year. Modern hybrids can stay in growth nearly year round, and bloom year round. While the ancestors of domestic adeniums are desert plants, they are now being produced in India under monsoon conditions. Drainage must be perfect of course. As for pruining, they may become tall and stringy without pruning. Prune by just clicing off what you don't want, with a sharp knife. It stimulates branching. Dip the prunings in rooting hormone adn let the cut ends dry for a week or more. Then stick it in your potting mix and water once in a while. They may root with no other care. They may not. I am starting to think some adeniums just root better than others. Cutting grown plants may or may not grow the swollen caudex of seedlings. Some cultivars do, some don't . They do take a few years of good growth to form caudexes if they are going to. Either way, they can make fat roots which can be mistaken for caudexes. The caudex of any adenium can be acentuated by lifting the plant about an inch every year to expose more of the caudex and swollen roots. They are lovely plants, but I don't concider them good for bonsai. Their finest twigs are too coarse. Their leaves don't reduce, or haven't for me. There are some dwarf varieties which are nice. Some grow them with bonsai. Some do look good in bonsia pots.
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